Why Does Earth Rotate and What Role Does the Moon Play?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the reasons for Earth's rotation and the role of the Moon in this context. Participants explore theories related to angular momentum, the formation of planets, and tidal locking, addressing both theoretical and conceptual aspects of the topic.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Earth's rotation is due to inertia from the Big Bang, expressing uncertainty about this explanation.
  • Another participant explains that Earth rotates because it formed from rotating material surrounding the Sun.
  • A participant introduces the concept of conservation of linear and angular momentum in a cloud of particles coalescing, questioning how this relates to the Moon's visibility.
  • There is a challenge to the simplicity of the conservation of angular momentum explanation, with a participant proposing that the rotational dynamics of protoplanets and their interaction with the protoplanetary disk play a significant role in generating rotational angular momentum.
  • Participants discuss the Moon's tidal locking, noting that it rotates at the same rate as its orbit around Earth, which results in only one side being visible from Earth.
  • One participant elaborates on the tidal locking phenomenon, indicating that it is a common occurrence for moons over long periods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms behind Earth's rotation and the implications of angular momentum conservation. There is no consensus on a singular explanation, and multiple competing theories are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about the initial conditions of the solar system and the dynamics of protoplanetary disks, which remain unresolved. The discussion also highlights the complexity of explaining the rotation of inner planets and the Sun.

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Hi all,
I am not a physics student but I always used to think that Earth rotates because of an inertia that occurred after big bang. But then someone told me that it's wrong. Now, I don't know that why Earth rotates :(
 
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hi woundedtiger4! :smile:

the Earth rotates because (like all the other planets) it formed from the material that surrounded the sun, and that was rotating

i'll let someone else take up the story from there :smile: …​
 
If you take a cloud of particles in free fall moving in random directions, they will have a total linear momentum and a total angular momentum (relative to an observer).
As they coalesce, both will be conserved.
 
haruspex said:
If you take a cloud of particles in free fall moving in random directions, they will have a total linear momentum and a total angular momentum (relative to an observer).
As they coalesce, both will be conserved.

then why do we always see the same side of the moon?
 
Darken-Sol said:
then why do we always see the same side of the moon?
The Moon is tidally locked to the Earth. It rotates, but the period of rotation is the same as its orbital period around the Earth, so we only get to see one side.
 
tiny-tim said:
the Earth rotates because (like all the other planets) it formed from the material that surrounded the sun, and that was rotating
haruspex said:
If you take a cloud of particles in free fall moving in random directions, they will have a total linear momentum and a total angular momentum (relative to an observer).
As they coalesce, both will be conserved.

Simple, but simply wrong. Google the term "angular momentum problem." Why the planets rotate is not a simple matter of conservation of angular momentum.

A better explanation, at least for the gas giants, is that protoplanets orbit slightly faster than the gas and dust in the portions of the protoplanetary disk near those planets. The orbital rate of a planet is [itex]\sqrt{G(M_s+m_p)/r^3}[/itex] while for a spec of dust it is just [itex]\sqrt{GM_s/r^3}[/itex]. The protoplanet clears a path through the disk, and as it does so, it spirals in toward the nascent star. The planet encounters more material on its starward side as opposed to its outward side. This density gradient is what generates most of the planet's rotational angular momentum. It is not a simple matter of conservation of angular momentum.

Why the inner planets rotate is still problematic, and an even bigger problem is why the Sun is rotating so slowly.
The best answer to the OP's question is that the Earth is rotating now because (a) it was rotating shortly after it formed, and (b) it has only transferred some of that initial rotational angular momentum to the Moon's orbit.
 
turbo said:
The Moon is tidally locked to the Earth. It rotates, but the period of rotation is the same as its orbital period around the Earth, so we only get to see one side.

To elaborate, the Moon was not always tidally locked. This is a common phenom that happens with moons of planets over their lifetime (billions of years), as the planets works to slow its moons' rotation. Many planets in the solar system have tidally locked moons.
 

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