Top Grades for MIT - What Do They Mean?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interpretation of "top grades" for admission to MIT and similar institutions, focusing on the criteria that define high academic performance, including standardized test scores and high school rankings.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that top grades imply close to perfect scores on SATs and SAT II's in math and science, along with perfect scores in AP exams and being at the top of one's high school class.
  • Another participant expresses concern about the stress associated with achieving such high grades, despite having top marks in their high school.
  • A later post provides specific historical data from MIT regarding competitive SAT score ranges for admitted students, noting that scores are evaluated in context rather than having strict cutoff scores.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on what constitutes "top grades," with varying interpretations of academic performance and the associated pressures. Multiple views on the criteria for admission remain present.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a lack of clarity on the specific percentage or average marks required for top grades, as well as the subjective nature of evaluating academic performance in different educational contexts.

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Hello all,

When i read top grades for MIT or other Us, what do you ppl mean by that?
How top (high) grades, what % someones marks and/or averages have to be?

I really do not understand it. Thank you all, Mika
 
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I would say close to if not perfect scores on SAT's and SAT II's in math and science. Perfect scores in AP exams. At the top of your class in high school, unless you go to a competitive and well-known public high school or prep school.
 
Juvenile, thank you very much. Although my high school marks are at the top but it would be to much stress for me and my parents.
 
sorry,sorry, I did mean juvenal, sorry
 
Here's what MIT says about SAT scores:

Competitive Scores

For students we admitted in 2004, the middle 50% score range was between 680-770 for SAT-I: Verbal and 730-800 for SAT-I: Math. We do not have cutoff scores for the SAT I and SAT II, as scores are evaluated within an applicant's context.

For the TOEFL exam, the institute minimum is 577 (233 on the computer-based exam).
 

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