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Jul16-12, 12:35 AM   #1
 

Would Mathematical Physics benefit me?


Hello everyone,

i am just wondering if a mathematical physics honours degree would benefit me more if i am wanting to get into theoretical astrophysics or theoretical high energy physics afterwards for my graduate studies? Or should i just stick with a physics honours degree?

i'm assuming it will benefit me more because a mathematical physics degree conatains the same amount required for a physics degree just a lot more math courses but that is just what i think with no university experience yet. any advice will help! thanks!
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Jul18-12, 01:21 PM   #2
 
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I did not know schools offer degrees in mathematical physics. How does this differ from a pure physics degree?
Jul18-12, 03:28 PM   #4
 

Would Mathematical Physics benefit me?


Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, Canada http://students.sfu.ca/calendar/phys...-phys-hon.html

the physics courses are all the same as regular physics honors but with an addition of 1 or 2 more math courses/semester on top of the math courses required for physics honors.

i'm curious to know if the extra math will give me more to offer or i should say more of an advantage for when i go into my graduate studies. i'm thinking theoretical astrophyics
Jul18-12, 03:52 PM   #5
 
"More to offer" than what? No extra anything? Probably. Extra physics? Probably not.
Jul18-12, 04:13 PM   #6
 
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"More to offer" than what? No extra anything? Probably. Extra physics? Probably not.
sorry let me rephrase. would i as a theoretical physicist or astrophysicist in the future, benefit from a mathematical physics degree more or just physics degree? Will the extra math courses be beneficial in the fields of theoretical astrophysics/cosmology or just theoretical physics in general? Thanks for the replies!
Jul18-12, 05:04 PM   #7
 
There are courses that look helpful. Are they helpful for graduate admission? Probably not (I wouldn't know). People studying physics should at least know:

Single Variable, Multivariable, and Vector Calculus
Ordinary and Partial Differential Equations
Linear Algebra

Other classes that would be helpful are Complex Analysis, Numerical Methods, and Statistics. That mathematical physics degree plan looks like the math + physics degree common at most schools. Just with a different name. :P
Jul18-12, 06:56 PM   #8
 
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There are courses that look helpful. Are they helpful for graduate admission? Probably not (I wouldn't know). People studying physics should at least know:

Single Variable, Multivariable, and Vector Calculus
Ordinary and Partial Differential Equations
Linear Algebra

Other classes that would be helpful are Complex Analysis, Numerical Methods, and Statistics. That mathematical physics degree plan looks like the math + physics degree common at most schools. Just with a different name. :P
Thank you for the reply! I am not too worried about if it will help with graduate admission. I am more interested to know if mathematical physics will give me a better foundation for theoretical physics or astrophysics for graduate school. I know the more math i know, the better. But are the extra math courses that relevent to what i want to get into? The main reason i am in this dilemma is because i want everything i can get my hands on to help me pursue a successful career as a scientist.
Jul18-12, 08:31 PM   #9
 
That looks like a solid curriculum, I would do it. The question is, why not? What downsides are there for doing this degree, which just seems to be a few more math classes?
Jul18-12, 08:59 PM   #10
 
The "Introduction to Analysis I + II" courses might not be directly helpful but they might be a prereq for another useful course. For example, a course in Applied Mathematics at my university would require a first semester in analysis. The course covers advanced math methods in physics here, but it is most likely different at your place. I'm sure the course on dynamical systems does, though. Other than that, everything else looks solid.

Have you been assigned a faculty advisor/mentor yet? They would know more about the curriculum they set up.
Jul18-12, 09:16 PM   #11
 
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That looks like a solid curriculum, I would do it. The question is, why not? What downsides are there for doing this degree, which just seems to be a few more math classes?
that is basically my perspective as well. But i have people telling me to focus on physics because thats more important and if i major in mathematical physics i will have to choose between math courses or physics courses if the times clash. Also, some say that the math i will be learning won't have any relationship with physics. So i wanted to get more insight from here. thanks for the post!
Jul18-12, 09:24 PM   #12
 
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The "Introduction to Analysis I + II" courses might not be directly helpful but they might be a prereq for another useful course. For example, a course in Applied Mathematics at my university would require a first semester in analysis. The course covers advanced math methods in physics here, but it is most likely different at your place. I'm sure the course on dynamical systems does, though. Other than that, everything else looks solid.

Have you been assigned a faculty advisor/mentor yet? They would know more about the curriculum they set up.
hey thanks for the reply! i actually had another thread and someone who actually attended SFU told me for their 3rd and 4th year the math and physics courses clashed so he just chose physics instead(some courses do clash when i checked). i'm not concerned with the fact that it will maybe take an extra semester or two to complete my degree but what really got me thinking is if the extra semester or two is really worth it. i am, after all, wanting to pursue a career in physics, so its just been messing with my mind for awhile now :S
Jul18-12, 09:59 PM   #13
 
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that is basically my perspective as well. But i have people telling me to focus on physics because thats more important and if i major in mathematical physics i will have to choose between math courses or physics courses if the times clash. Also, some say that the math i will be learning won't have any relationship with physics. So i wanted to get more insight from here. thanks for the post!
Well, if you do theoretical physics -- your not always so sure what mathematics might be relevant in the future. There is a theoretical physicist in the institute of theoretical physics (she is quite pretty :D) who is using group theory to understand space. Sounds weird but that is what happens, every once in a while some mathematics is introduced into a particular field. If you do theory, it might help to take some of the extra math classes to build up your comfort level in math. But some classes are more essential to others and some classes have more potential for use than others, so it all depends. Most classes might very well be quite useless, so it is up to you.
Jul18-12, 10:15 PM   #14
 
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Well, if you do theoretical physics -- your not always so sure what mathematics might be relevant in the future. There is a theoretical physicist (she is quite pretty :D) who is using group theory to understand space. Sounds weird but that is what happens, every once in a while some mathematics is introduced into a particular field. If you do theory, it might help to take some of the extra math classes to build up your comfort level in math. But some classes are more essential to others and some classes have more potential for use than others, so it all depends. Most classes might very well be quite useless, so it is up to you.
thanks for the reply! i really appreciate it. I THINK i will go through with it. i'm going to talk to some professors and advisors
Jul18-12, 10:21 PM   #15
 
Quote by Nano-Passion View Post
Well, if you do theoretical physics -- your not always so sure what mathematics might be relevant in the future. There is a theoretical physicist (she is quite pretty :D) who is using group theory to understand space. Sounds weird but that is what happens, every once in a while some mathematics is introduced into a particular field. If you do theory, it might help to take some of the extra math classes to build up your comfort level in math. But some classes are more essential to others and some classes have more potential for use than others, so it all depends. Most classes might very well be quite useless, so it is up to you.
thanks for the reply! i really appreciate it. I THINK i will go through with it. i'm going to talk to some professors and advisors
Jul18-12, 10:46 PM   #16
 
I'm assuming the only difference is in math?

Upper Division Requirements
Students complete a minimum total of 58 units, including all of
MACM 316-3 Numerical Analysis I
MATH 310-3 Introduction to Ordinary Differential Equations
MATH 320-3 Introduction to Analysis II
MATH 322-3 Complex Variables
MATH 418-3 Partial Differential Equations
and one of
MATH 419-3 Linear Analysis
MATH 424-3 Complex Analysis
MATH 425-3 Real Analysis
and one of
MATH 461-3 Continuous Mathematical Models
MATH 462-3 Fluid Dynamics
MATH 495-3 Selected Topics in Applied Mathematics
and one of
MACM 401-3 Introduction to Computer Algebra
MACM 416-3 Numerical Analysis II
MATH 467-3 Dynamical Systems
All of this seems very reasonable, you have some very reasonable choices and the flexibility is quite good.
Jul18-12, 11:03 PM   #17
 
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I'm assuming the only difference is in math?



All of this seems very reasonable, you have some very reasonable choices and the flexibility is quite good.
yes i do have a lot to choose from. Another thing that has just caught my attention is won't extra math courses mean taking the places of physics courses :( man this is driving me nuts...
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