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This discussion focuses on verifying solutions to differential equations related to Kepler's laws of planetary motion. The user demonstrates that the second derivatives x''(t) and y''(t) can be confirmed as solutions to the given differential equations, specifically showing that w² = GM/R³. The user also references Kepler's third law, which states that the square of the period of revolution is proportional to the cube of the length of the major axis of the orbit. The verification process is outlined clearly, confirming the relationship between angular velocity and gravitational parameters.

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Well I really don't know that much about Kepler's laws and so I cannot say I am 100 percent sure about this but this is what I got out of it so far.

All the question is asking you to do is to verify that [tex]x(t)[/tex] and [tex]y(t)[/tex] are in fact solutions to the diffeqs. You do not need to solve the diffeqs to check their solutions. All you need to do is check'em. So let's do that and see what happens.
Like I said before [tex]x''(t)=-Rw^2cos(wt) \mbox{ and } y''(t)=-Rw^2cos(wt)[/tex].

And we are given those exact same functions above just in a different form. So we just plug in x and y for the given diffeqs and then check to see if they match our diffeqs.

[tex]\frac{d^2X}{dt^2}=\frac{-GMx}{(x^2+y^2)^{3/2}}[/tex]

is our first given diffeq, so where ever we see an x we put it there and where ever we see a y we put that there and in unsimplified form it looks like,

[tex]-GM*Rcos(wt)/([Rcos(wt)]^2+[Rsin(wt)]^2)^(3/2)[/tex]

Which simplifies to [tex]-GM*cos(wt)/R^2[/tex]

Well we can set that equal to our solution and we have

[tex]x''(t)=-Rw^2cos(wt)=-GM*cos(wt)/R^2[/tex]

Which simplifies to[tex]w^2=GM/r^3[/tex]

The exact same procedure for[tex]y''(t)[/tex] will give the same answer [tex]w^2=GM/R^3[/tex]

Now if someone knows Keplers third law then we could be sure of our answer.

I could be wrong though so I would be careful how you are using this solution.

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Kepler's third law states:

"The square of the period of revolution of a planet is proportional to the cube of the length of the major axis of its orbit."

The period of revolution in your case is: [itex]T=2\pi/\omega[/itex], and since the orbit is circular, the length of the major axis is simply the radius R.

So using what you got:
[tex]w^2=GM/R^3[/tex]

I'd say it checks out nicely.
 
Thanks

Thanks for the help, and of course the verification. Hopefully I can be of some help to some members here--I'm currently a Electrical Engineering major, and currently in differential equations. My specialty would probably be integration, so if any feels so inclined please feel free to ask for help.

Thanks Isacc, and Galileo. I wish I came up with a philosopher's name first. :biggrin:

Take it easy friends.

Ravi
 

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