How Can Proving Inequalities Help in Understanding Mathematical Concepts?

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The discussion revolves around proving inequalities in the context of mathematical concepts, specifically focusing on quadratic expressions and the application of Schwarz's Inequality. Participants are exploring the conditions under which certain inequalities hold true and the implications of these conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to rewrite a quadratic expression and seeks guidance on how to manipulate it to prove a specific inequality. They also inquire about proving Schwarz's Inequality using a sum of squares.
  • Some participants question the necessity of proving the converse of the initial inequality and discuss the implications of the terms involved in the expressions.
  • Others suggest examining the positivity of terms in the quadratic expression to derive necessary conditions for the inequalities.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of expressions and the relationship between terms in the inequalities. Multiple interpretations of the approach to proving Schwarz's Inequality are being explored.

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There is an emphasis on proving both directions of the inequality, and participants are considering the implications of specific conditions such as the positivity of coefficients in the quadratic expressions.

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Hello all:

Show that if [tex]a > 0[/tex], [tex]ax^2 + 2bx + c \geq 0[/tex] for all values of x if and only if [tex]b^2 - ac \leq 0[/tex]. Ok so I rewrote [tex]ax^2 + 2bx + c[/tex] as [tex]a(x+ \frac{b}{a})^2 + \frac{ac-b^2}{a}[/tex] Now how would I work with this expression?

Also if you are given [tex](a_1x + b_1)^2 + (a_2x + b_2)^2 + ... + (a_nx + b_n)^2[/tex] how would you prove Schwarz's Inequaliity? Would it be:

Schwarz's Inequality

[tex](a_1b_1 + a_2b_2 + ... + a_nb_n)^2 \leq (a_1^2 + ... + a_n^2)(b_1^2+...+b_n^2)[/tex]

So [tex](a_1x^2 + 2a_1xb_1 + b_1^2) + (a_2x^2 + 2a_2x + b_2^2) + (a_nx^2 + 2a_nxb_n + b_n^2)[/tex]. So factoring we have [tex]x^2(a_1+a_2+ ... + a_n) + 2x(a_1b_1 + a_2b_2 + ... + a_nb_n) + (b_1^2 + b_2^2 + ... + b_n^2)[/tex] Now how would I prove Schwarz's inequality from here?

Thanks a lot
 
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[tex]a(x+ \frac{b}{a})^2 + \frac{ac-b^2}{a} \geq 0 ~ for~all~x[/tex]

Theifirst term is clearly a positive number but will be zero only when x = -b/a. So, if the second term were negative, the sum would be negaitve for some values of x (in particular, for x = -b/a). This is not allowed. Hence, the second term must be ...
 
the second term must be positive or this implies that [tex]b^2 - ac \leq 0[/tex]
 
is my approach to the second question correct?

Thanks
 
The question requires you to prove the converse too ("if, and only if"). But this is just working backwards along the same steps, and is trivial to do.

Looking at #2 now...
 
Yor approach here is correct. You seem to have made one small error, though.

Starting from [tex](a_1x + b_1)^2 + (a_2x + b_2)^2 + ... + (a_nx + b_n)^2 \geq 0[/tex]

you should get

[tex]x^2(a_1^2+a_2^2+ ... + a_n^2) + 2x(a_1b_1 + a_2b_2 + ... + a_nb_n) + (b_1^2 + b_2^2 + ... + b_n^2) \geq 0[/tex]

Now use the result you proved in #1 (since the coefficient of the x^2 term is positive), and you are home.
 
ok I got it!

Thanks a lot Gokul

I just used the fact that [tex]b^2 - ac \leq 0[/tex]
 

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