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Jul29-12, 04:08 AM   #1
 

Mean Value Theorem Problem


Given f(n) = (1 - (1/n))n

I calculate that the limit as n -> infinity is 1/e.

Also given that x/(1-x) > -log(1-x) > x with 0<x<1 (I proved this in an earlier part of the question) I want to show that:

1 > (f(60)/f(infinity)) > e-1/59 > 58/59

I have tried using my value for f (infinity) and f(60) = e60*log(59/60) in the original inequality but cannot seem to rearrange it to the last one.

I get e(x/1-x) > 1/1-x > ex but am not sure where to go from there.

Thanks!
 
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Jul29-12, 05:07 AM   #2
 
Hey sr3056 and welcome to the forums.

Try subtracting 1/59 from both sides (let x = 1)
 
Jul29-12, 05:25 AM   #3
mfb
 
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Do you know e^x >= 1+x (with "=" just for x=0)? You can use it to show ex/(1-x) > 1/(1-x)

1/1-x > ex... maybe the derivatives can give you some way to prove this.

@chiro: x=1 is not in the range where the equation is well-defined.
 
Jul29-12, 05:29 AM   #4
 
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I get e(x/1-x) > 1/1-x > ex but am not sure where to go from there.
Try inverting each term in that line (adjusting the relationships as appropriate), then plugging in a value for x.
 
Jul29-12, 05:52 AM   #5
 
Thank you for your responses.

Inverting, I get e(x/x-1) < 1 - x < e-x

Letting x = 1/60 I then get e-1/59 < 59/60 < e-1/60

This is starting to look a bit more like it, but I'm not sure how my f(60) and f(infinity) values are going to come in...
 
Jul29-12, 08:17 AM   #6
mfb
 
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"f(60)/f(infinity)" = e*(1-1/60)^60
Take the log, and your inequality reads:

0 > 1+60 log(1-1/60) > -1/59
You get the left ">" with "-log(1-x) > x" and the right ">" with "x/(1-x) > -log(1-x)", both with the obvious choice for x.
 
Jul29-12, 09:00 AM   #7
 
Thank you very much
 
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