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Aug1-12, 09:18 AM   #1
 

Eigenvalue(s) for a matrix


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Find the eigenvalues of A, when A =[3,1,1; 0,5,0; -2,0,1]


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I took the det(A-[itex]\lambda[/itex]I)=0 and found the characteristic polynomial to be:

-[itex]\lambda[/itex][itex]^{3}[/itex]+15[itex]\lambda[/itex][itex]^{2}[/itex]-73[itex]\lambda[/itex]+115

I couldn't figure out whole roots to the equation and wolframalpha gave me
[itex]\lambda[/itex]=5, 5-√2, 5+√2

Does this seem like the right answer? I have checked and double checked the determinant. Would I still be able to find a basis for the eigenspace?
 
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Aug1-12, 10:23 AM   #2
 
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For matrix:
$$A= \begin{bmatrix}3 & 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 5 & 0 \\ -2 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}$$
Here is the characteristic equation that i get:
##-λ^3+9λ^2-25λ+25=0##
 
Aug1-12, 10:24 AM   #3
 
Because the second column is [0, 5, 0], the polynomial should look like (5 - x)Q(x), where Q(x) is a second-degree polynomial. So it should be very easy to get its roots. Do it.
 
Aug1-12, 01:10 PM   #4
 

Eigenvalue(s) for a matrix


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For matrix:
$$A= \begin{bmatrix}3 & 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 5 & 0 \\ -2 & 0 & 1\end{bmatrix}$$
Here is the characteristic equation that i get:
##-λ^3+9λ^2-25λ+25=0##
Sorry the matrix was $$A= \begin{bmatrix}3 & 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 5 & 0 \\ -2 & 0 & 7\end{bmatrix}$$
not 2,0,1 in the last row. That was my mistake.
 
Aug1-12, 04:21 PM   #5
 
Yes, those are the eigenvalues.
 
Aug1-12, 04:35 PM   #6
 
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Because the second column is [0, 5, 0], the polynomial should look like (5 - x)Q(x), where Q(x) is a second-degree polynomial. So it should be very easy to get its roots. Do it.
The second row is [0, 5, 0].
 
Aug1-12, 04:43 PM   #7
 
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The second row is [0, 5, 0].
This is not clear from the original notation. Anyway, that does not matter for determinants so my argument holds.
 
Aug2-12, 03:47 AM   #8
 
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Expand the determinant along the second row.
 
Aug2-12, 05:03 AM   #9
 
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This is not clear from the original notation.
Well, the original notation used is actually very common and can be recognized as a standard, since it is also used in popular software like MATLAB.
 
Aug2-12, 05:15 AM   #10
 
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Well, the original notation used is actually very common and can be recognized as a standard, since it is also used in popular software like MATLAB.
Let's put it this way: not clear for me, I always seem to forget the conventions for rows vs columns in a linear transcription. This may stem from the fact that even when working with paper and pencil, I am about equally likely to write down a matrix column after column and row after row. Let's hope this thread will leave a dent in my state of confusion :)
 
Aug2-12, 05:32 AM   #11
 
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Sorry the matrix was $$A= \begin{bmatrix}3 & 1 & 1 \\ 0 & 5 & 0 \\ -2 & 0 & 7\end{bmatrix}$$
not 2,0,1 in the last row. That was my mistake.
Your characteristic equation from post #1 is correct. Now, you just need to solve it. Usually, you would start by trial and error to find one factor of the polynomial (you already know the easy one is (λ-5)) and then do long division to obtain a quadratic in the quotient, which you would then solve using the quadratic formula.
 
Aug2-12, 05:42 AM   #12
 
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find one factor of the polynomial (you already know the easy one is (λ-5)) and then do long division to obtain a quadratic in the quotient
The point I made in #3 is that none of this is required. By tackling the determinant along [0, 5, 0], one gets the polynomial directly in the factored form.
 
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