Solving Forces and Angles to Load Fuel Drum

  • Thread starter Thread starter k3l
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Angles Forces
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a scenario involving a plank used to support a load, specifically focusing on the mechanics of forces and angles. The original poster describes a situation where a plank broke under a weight of 166 kg when supported horizontally, and now the same plank is being considered for use as a ramp to load a 197 kg fuel drum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the reasoning behind the plank's ability to support a greater weight when inclined, with references to the reduction of the normal force component due to the angle of the plank. There are attempts to calculate the minimum angle required for the plank to safely support the fuel drum.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing mathematical insights and reasoning related to the forces acting on the plank. There is an exploration of the concepts of gravitational force components and their implications for the problem at hand.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, including the specific weights involved and the mechanics of the plank's support. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach part a) of the question.

k3l
Messages
12
Reaction score
0
hi, i need help on a question

its like... there is a operator supported a plank horizontally by its two ends, but when loaded bricks on its centre and found that the weight of 166kg of bricks was just enough to break the plank. But an identical plank is now being used as a ramp to load a full 200L fuel drum onto a truck. The drum and its contents have a mass of 197kg.

a) Carefully explain why the operator could still use this plank to load the fuel drum.
b) what is the minimum angle to the horizontal at which the plank can still used to load the drum?

i don't know where to start... as i don't know how to answer part a) :mad:
 
Physics news on Phys.org
min angle would be = cos-1(166/197)
 
and the reason the greater weight could be carried is b/c when the plank is at angle the internal moment arm is less
 
k3l said:
hi, i need help on a question

its like... there is a operator supported a plank horizontally by its two ends, but when loaded bricks on its centre and found that the weight of 166kg of bricks was just enough to break the plank. But an identical plank is now being used as a ramp to load a full 200L fuel drum onto a truck. The drum and its contents have a mass of 197kg.

a) Carefully explain why the operator could still use this plank to load the fuel drum.
b) what is the minimum angle to the horizontal at which the plank can still used to load the drum?

i don't know where to start... as i don't know how to answer part a) :mad:

The original plank broke at 166 kg because the gravitational force NORMAL to its surface exceeded the plank's capacity. When the plank is tilted, the component of gravitational force NORMAL to the surface is reduced by a factor of cos(A), where "A" is the plank's tilt angle with respect to horizontal ground. Thus, the minimum "A" required for 197 kg can be determined from:
(197)*cos(A) = (166) <--- (derive this yourself by resolving grav force into components normal and parallel to plank surface)
~
 
Last edited:
how do i attach a document
 
plank

this should help
 

Attachments

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
7K
  • · Replies 39 ·
2
Replies
39
Views
6K
Replies
8
Views
5K