Does a subsequence only have to have some terms

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The discussion centers on the properties of subsequences in the context of a sequence of positive numbers, specifically examining the sequence defined by s_n = (n - 10)^2. The key point is that a subsequence does not need to contain all terms from the original sequence; it only requires a selection of terms that maintain a specific order. The user questions the nature of subsequences, particularly regarding the inclusion of terms when the sequence approaches its infimum of 0, which cannot be included as it is not a positive number. The conclusion is that a subsequence can indeed consist of "some" terms, as long as it adheres to the monotonicity requirement.

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Does a subsequence only have to have "some" terms

This is an example from my text, which I do not understand.

Suppose (s_n)is a sequence of POSITIVE numbers such that inf{s_n | n in NaturalNumbers} = 0. The sequence need not converge or even be bounded , but it has a subsequence that converges monotonically.

They then give a recursive process on how to pick the elements of the subsequence. My problem is as follows. Suppose the sequence is:

s_n = (n - 10)^2

This is a shifted parabola (but sequence) that has an inf = 0. A subsequence must have infinite terms, correct? I can see how you can pick terms starting from the left hand side of the vertex, and pick a monotone decreasing terms up to the vertex (0, 0), but what about after that? s_n starts moving back up and goes to +infinity. So past a certain point, we can't pick anymore points off s_n for our subsequence and keep the monotonicity of it.

So what am I missing? Does a subsequence only have to have "some" terms from the main sequence it is a subsequence of?
 
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eckiller said:
This is an example from my text, which I do not understand.

Suppose (s_n)is a sequence of POSITIVE numbers such that inf{s_n | n in NaturalNumbers} = 0. The sequence need not converge or even be bounded , but it has a subsequence that converges monotonically.

They then give a recursive process on how to pick the elements of the subsequence. My problem is as follows. Suppose the sequence is:

s_n = (n - 10)^2

But this isn't a sequence of positive numbers s_10=0.
 
learningphysics said:
But this isn't a sequence of positive numbers s_10=0.


Do you see why that's important? If you allowed 0 in the sequence or if the inf was a positive number, then a sequence that included inf but all other numbers might be far away from it which would violate your conclusion.

The inf of the sequence is 0 but 0 itself cannot be in the sequence! Given any integer n, let ε= 1/n. Are there any members of the sequence less than ε?
 

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