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| Oct24-12, 03:53 PM | #1 |
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Why does the physical state of a substance primarily depend on its temperature?
Let me know if i am correct here. Temperature is just the amount of energy associated with that particle or molecule? So why does that determine if it is solid, liquid, or gas? Why doesnt water turn into ice at room temperature when you compress it into itself enough? Like in star wars when they are trapped in the garbage shoot and the walls are caving in (haha), but coming from every direction and squeezing a sample of water, or anything, into itself. Wouldnt the h2o particles eventually become close enough to eachother to become a solid?
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| Oct24-12, 04:04 PM | #2 |
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| Oct24-12, 04:16 PM | #3 |
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| Oct24-12, 05:03 PM | #4 |
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Why does the physical state of a substance primarily depend on its temperature?
You should look at the definition of triple point and watch the video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRqpJN9zeA |
| Oct25-12, 08:43 AM | #5 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you can compress liquid water into a solid, but just because solid water is LESS dense than liquid water. If water was "normal", you would be able to do it.
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| Oct25-12, 09:01 AM | #6 |
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| Oct25-12, 09:11 AM | #7 |
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Most solids are crystalline, with very ordered structure that represents a lowest energy configuration. It doesn't change shape because of that.
I don't think that if you could compress a liquid enough it would ever form a crystalline solid. You'd just have a very, very dense liquid that still flows. The question is how do you define 'solid'? Other solids are glasses, which are very viscous, slow flowing liquids. You might make something like that - but can you call it a solid? |
| Oct25-12, 09:16 AM | #8 |
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You can compress water into a solid. It happens just over 1 GPa at room temperature. I believe the crystalline form is tetragonal rather than the hexagonal that we are used to.
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| Oct25-12, 09:29 AM | #9 |
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If you want long enough, every solid material with finite temperature will have some re-ordering of the atoms. But the typical timescale is so long that this is not relevant. |
| Oct25-12, 09:48 AM | #10 |
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The question is as to exactly when very slow movement becomes no movement. |
| Oct25-12, 10:59 AM | #11 |
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Surely a solid has a(n attempt at) a regular crystal structure or arrangement of molecules.
Fluids and glasses do not, as do other amorphous states of matter. Chemists and physicists also differ in their interpretation of the word 'state of matter', recognising many more than do physicists. |
| Oct25-12, 11:21 AM | #12 |
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I think we've answered the OP's question. Other things besides temperature matter. Pressure. Temperature history (glass vs. quartz). Pressure history (graphite vs. diamond)
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