Solving Region Enclosed by: 2y=4sqrt(x), y=5, 2y+3x=7

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a region enclosed by the curves defined by the equations 2y=4sqrt(x), y=5, and 2y+3x=7. Participants are exploring how to set up the problem for integration and determining the appropriate limits and methods for calculating the area.

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  • Participants discuss solving each equation for y and question how to handle the line y=5 in relation to the other curves. There is consideration of integrating with respect to x or y, and some participants suggest checking intersections to determine limits for integration.

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There are multiple interpretations of the problem, with participants suggesting different approaches to integration and limits. Some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of integrals, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or final area calculation.

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Participants note potential intersections of the curves and the implications for the area calculation, including the need to account for different segments of the region based on the intersections. There is mention of a possible mistake in earlier calculations and the complexity of the area due to the presence of three curves.

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Sketch the region enclosed by the given curves. Decide whether to integrate with respect to x or y. Then find the area of the region.

2y=4sqrt(x)
y=5
2y+3x=7


okay that was the question, and here's what i done:
i'm going to solve each equation for y now.

2y=4sqrt(x) --> [tex]y=\frac{4sqrt(x)}{2}[/tex]
2y+3x=7 --> [tex]y=\frac{7-3x}{2}[/tex]

i don't really know what to do with y=5 cause there are three functions if i graphed all three and i can't really find an example like this. What i think i must do is plugged in y=5 into the other functions and solving for x. which would give me the x-intercepts, which means i should integral in respect to x.
am i correct in thinking like this?
 
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"Sketch the region enclosed by the given curves"

You have 3 curves. The area enclosed is the integral of their difference

Fine Ill cut you some slack

[tex]\int_{0}^{6.25} 5 - 2* \sqrt{x} dx - \int_{0}^{1} \frac{7-3*x}{2} dx[/tex]

Why 0 to 6.25? Because when y=5, 2*sqrt(x) = 5. And sqrt(x) = 5/2, therefore x = 25/4 = 6.25. Second integral is to substract that little strip (blue line) - which intersects 2*sqrt(x) at x=1, hence 0 to 1

Now after you integrate this and all that fun stuff, your area should be: 23/3
 
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hmm, what you said makes sense but the answer is wrong(online checks my answer). I also solved the definite integral that you posted and got the same answer as you. using my calculator, i also found an intersection at (-1,5), so i would think i need 3 integrals right?

[tex]\int_{-1}^{0} 5 - \frac{7-3*x}{2} - \int_{0}^{6.25} 5 - 2* \sqrt{x} dx - \int_{0}^{1} \frac{7-3*x}{2} dx[/tex]
 
hmm.. I think this is where you have to substract the y-portion of this area.. the answer differes slightly because I didnt really account for that tiny triangle on the left.

You can substract 2*sqrt(x) from y=5 wrt x, and then substract int((7-3*x)/2 dy) from 7/3 to 0
 
The first thing I would do is determine where the line 2y+ 3x= 7 and the parabola
y= [itex]2\sqrt{x}[/itex] intersect. Replacing the y in 2y+ 3x= 7 with [itex]2\sqrt{x}[/itex] gives [itex]4\sqrt{x}+ 3x= 7[/itex]. Let [itex]u= \sqrt{x}[/itex] and we have the quadratic equation 4u+ 3u2= 7 which is 3u2+ 4u- 7= (u-1)(3u+7)=0. That has roots u= 1 and u= -7/3. Since x= u2, x= 1 or x= 49/9. That second root gives y negative. The intersection we want is (1,2). Since y= 5 is above that, the area is that upper triangle in cronxeh's graph- although, as he said later, he made the mistake of cutting it off at x= 0. There is no reason to do that.

The line y= 5 intersects the line 2y+ 3x= 7 where 2(5)+ 3x= 10+ 3x= 7 or 3x= -3 so x= -1. The line y= 5 intersects the parabola [itex]y= 2\sqrt{x}[/itex] where [itex]2\sqrt{x}= 5[/itex] so x= 25/4. The region is that "sort of triangle" (one side is really a parabola) with vertices (1,2), (-1, 5), and (25/4, 5).

You COULD do that by integrating y from -1 to 25/4. Since the lower limit changes formulas at x= 1, that would require integrating 5- (7-3x)/2 from -1 to 1 and then integrating [itex]2\sqrt{x}[/itex] from 1 to 25/4.

In my opinion, it is simpler to solve each equation for x, x= (7-2y)/3 and x= y2/4, and integrating the difference, y2/4- (7-2y)/3 from y= 2 to y= 5.
That is, use horizontal "rectangles" in the Riemann sum rather than vertical.
 
uhh.. yea I just realized my mistake.. my bad

Here I included a new graph with area enclosed by the 3 graphs highlighted.. if I'm wrong again I am never posting in this section :cry:
 
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thanks so much
 

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