Proving (1+a2)(1+a3)...(1+an)=0 for Any Finite Field F

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The discussion revolves around proving the equation (1+a2)(1+a3)...(1+an)=0 for any finite field F, exploring both odd and even cases of n. Participants examine the implications of field characteristics and the existence of additive inverses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that for odd n, the presence of 1 in the field leads to at least one element having itself as its inverse, thus supporting the equation.
  • Another participant argues that if one of the a_r is 1, then one of the terms becomes 2, which is zero in characteristic 2 fields, and proposes that a_2 can be considered as -1 in other fields.
  • A participant questions the reasoning behind the assertion that one of the terms is 2, seeking clarification on this point.
  • It is noted that in a field, the product is zero if and only if one of the factors is zero, leading to the conclusion that it suffices to show one of the 1+a terms is zero.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification and questions whether separate cases were necessary for the proof.
  • Another participant asserts that in any field, there exists a non-zero element such that 1+x=0, extending the result to finite rings and domains.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of additive inverses in fields and their implications for the proof, but there are differing views on the necessity of considering separate cases for odd and even n.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the characteristics of finite fields and the nature of their elements remain unaddressed, particularly in the context of even n and the implications of field characteristics.

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let F= { 0=a1, a2,a3,a4...an} be a finite field. show that
(1+a2)(1+a3)...(1+an) = 0.

when n is odd, it's simple since 1 belongs to F. then odd number of elements are left( they're distinct from 0 and 1). at least one of them, say x,must have itself as its inverse. x^2 = 1 implies x=-1 ( since x != 1)...so the result is true.

for n even and the case where none of them are inverses of themselves, can somebody suggest a solution?
 
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One of the a_r must be 1, which is distinct from 0, so one of the terms is 2, which is zero in char 2, and wlog a_2 = -1 in any other field.

It's a field. If elements multiply together to give 0 one of them must be zero, ie, 1+a_2=0 after relabelling. a_2= -1, the inverse of 1 which isn't zero and hence must be in the list you gave.
 
matt grime said:
one of the terms is 2, which is zero in char 2, and wlog a_2 = -1 in any other field.

didn't get this...please elaborate
 
You get that the product is zero if and only if one of the factors is zero, since it is a field?

So it suffices to show that one of the 1+a's is zero.

But this is true since 1 has an additive inverse, -1 (which equals 1 in a field of char 2)
 
thanks...that makes it clear...
but here's another question :redface: does this mean i could have done this problem without considering separate cases?
 
Yes, absolutely. In any field there is a non-zero element, x, such that 1+x=0. The result is also true in any finite ring with unit, any finite domain too.
 

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