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| Mar8-05, 10:39 PM | #1 |
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"Pollitical science" is not a science
For something to be a science it must follow the scientific method. In particular it must be falsifiable.
Political science does not follow the scientific method and is not falsifiable because it is not practical or moral to create political experiments. To create an experiment it is necessary that all factors other than those you want to study be eliminated. This is impossible in the domain of human interaction, where you cannot arrange people into political units as you like, eliminating the effects of culture; therefore there is no science in politics. So it's all a matter of what seems most reasonable. There are no experts in politics; no testability means no way to determine validity, except for reasoning through what seems to make the most sense from one's own point of view. We see the effects of this untestability in the multiplicity of opposing political theses. Were political science a science, fundamental opposition of that nature could not arise; one view would be demonstrably valid, and one would be demonstrably false. The explanation is that there is no way to demonstrate falsehood, and therefore no way to distinguish, except through each individual's unaugmented, natural power of reason. |
| Mar8-05, 11:44 PM | #2 |
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Here is the flaw in your reasoning:
The experiments (and there are social experiments) need not be perfect to be scientific. You're holding on to an idealized version of science that is not reality. You don't understand what science really is and thats why you don't understand why Political Science is a science. |
| Mar8-05, 11:46 PM | #3 |
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| Mar9-05, 12:50 AM | #4 |
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"Pollitical science" is not a science
We had a board where students could write an oxymoron for the day. One day someone wrote "Political Science." We had a good laugh, though this has been debated forever, hasn't it? Suffice it to say, scientific methods are used by Political Scientists, but since I don't have the strength to do battle on this one, I'll just thank those of you above for your good replies.
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| Mar9-05, 04:27 AM | #5 |
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I think Russ made very good comments and I only have two things to add:
Regarding falsifiability, Popper himself thought it was important to distingwish between the logical meaning of the word and its methodological applications: With his theory of Verisimilitude he went on to explain how theories' strengths could be compared with respect to their 'truth'-value and 'false'-value. In short, he said that theories can only be more or less true and we must pick the more true ones. Another thing is that political questions are such precisely because they can not be solved scientifically. However, political science is not directly about those issues, it is about the their context, interpretations, interdependence, and the application of a theoretical framework on them. |
| Mar9-05, 07:36 AM | #6 |
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I think the others here have already addressed the flaws well. I just want to point out these two statements:
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| Mar10-05, 04:17 PM | #7 |
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Though scientific methods are used in many fields of study, such as political science, it is not considered to be a pure science. In looking to see how "pure science" is defined, I googled into Wikpedia, and saw the "Dispute Resolution" section. Perhaps just as interesting is the creationists and mainstream science posts on that site...?
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| Mar12-05, 01:00 AM | #8 |
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This is strangely the first time I have looked at the replies here since I posted it.
Dispute resolution is a good point. You never have that conclusively in political "science." You never have good experiments. All right, not all experiments are perfect, but some are good and some are not. In political "science" no experiments are sufficiently controllable to demonstrate or disprove any idea with any reasonable certainty. Name one--one bona-fide _experiment_. Observing conditions and drawing what seems to you to be conclusions is not an experiment. In other sciences people tend not to disagree over the basics. In the most abstruse areas of discourse there can be some disagreement, though it is nearly always resolvable through more experiments. In political "science" people disagree over the very basics all the time. Also in political "science," the conditions are never the same way twice. There are no twenty cities just like Boston, like there are twenty rats just like each other or twenty electrons just like each other. Sample size is ludicrously small. The lessons of the past--to the extent such lessons can be gleaned, which is not large--become increasingly irrelevant to various degrees, often large degrees, as technology and hundreds of other factors shift in ways not understood. Political scientists cannot predict the stock market. Did you know that the amount of variation in stock market indicators over time remains approximately constant no matter what the resolution you're looking at the indicators with? If you look at a stock market graph over 1 year it statistically looks much the same as a stock market graph over 10 years. Makes you think that the factors determining it are chaotic. If political scientists were worth anything, they would be able to predict the stock market and become rich. |
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