Head-on Collision: Solving for Ball A & B Velocities

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The problem involves two billiard balls of equal mass undergoing a perfectly elastic head-on collision, with one ball initially moving in the positive x direction and the other in the negative x direction. The objective is to determine the velocities of both balls after the collision.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of momentum and energy principles but encounters difficulties. Some participants inquire about the specific steps taken in the calculations, while others suggest using two equations related to kinetic energy and momentum conservation to find the unknown velocities.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different algebraic approaches to solve for the unknown velocities of the balls after the collision. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of two equations to find the solutions, but no consensus or resolution has been reached yet.

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Participants note that the problem requires solving for two unknowns, which adds complexity to the algebra involved. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their initial attempts, indicating a need for further clarification.

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Can anyone help me with this problem?


Two billiard balls of equal mass undergo a perfectly elastic head-on collision. If one ball (ball A) is initially moving at 1.9 m/s in the +x direction, and the other (ball B) is initially moving at 3.9 m/s in the -x direction, what will be the velocities of (a) ball A and (b) ball B after the collision? (Indicate the direction by the sign of your answer, taking a positive velocity as being in the +x direction.)

I've tried using the conservation of momentum and energy... doesn't seem to work.
 
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First I tried mvA+MvB=MvA'+MvB' but that didn't work... then I got some long formulas from class like V(B)'=2M(A)(VA)/(MA+MB)+(M(B)-(MA)(VB)/(MA+MB)
 
Hi Jaykawk1,

Ok this kind of problem requires more algebra than physics...

Ok you have to use two principles two solve this

1) (1/2)M(a)(V^2) + (1/2)M(b)(V^2) = (1/2)M(a)(V'(a)^2) + (1/2)M(b)(V'(b)^2)
[ Conservation of total kinetic energy for elastic collisions ]

2) M(a)V(a) + M(b)V(b) = M(a)V'(a) + M(b)V'(b)
[ Conservation of Momentum ]


Now what you need to see is that here you have two equations.

And...the problems asks:

"what will be the velocities of (a) ball A and (b) ball B after the collision?"

So there are TWO velocities that need to be found thus two unkowns.

Therefore we have two equations;

1) (1/2)M(a)(V^2) + (1/2)M(b)(V^2) = (1/2)M(a)(V'(a)^2) + (1/2)M(b)(V'(b)^2)

2) M(a)V(a) + M(b)V(b) = M(a)V'(a) + M(b)V'(b)

And also two unkowns, V'(a) and V'(b), Now from here its just algebra.

Solve for one of the unkowns, V'(a) or V'(b), using equation (2) and substitute that into equation (1), and then solve for the other unkown velocity (you may have to use the quadratic formula) and than once you get the velocity.

Then go back to what you came up with earlier when you were first trying to solve for one of the unkowns and substitute what you found from above into that equation and solve for the final one.

And your set.

Regards,

-Jose Antonio Zalles II

P.S. just reply if its still giving you issues.
 
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Thanks so much!
 
No prob, best of luck with your studies.

-Jose Antonio Zalles II
 

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