Static Friction: Backpack & Table in Physics Lab

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The problem involves a backpack resting on a table, with a spring attached that is pulled horizontally. The objective is to determine the coefficient of static friction between the backpack and the table based on the spring's force and the weight of the backpack.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the maximum static friction force and the normal force, questioning how to apply the equations correctly. There are mentions of using a free-body diagram to analyze the forces involved.

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Some participants have provided calculations related to the forces acting on the backpack and have attempted to derive the coefficient of static friction. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach, and the discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants emphasize the importance of not providing complete solutions to encourage learning, indicating that the problem is part of a homework assignment.

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A backpack full of books weighing 47.0 N rests on a table in a physics laboratory classroom. A spring with a force constant of 150 N/m is attached to the backpack and pulled horizontally. If the spring stretches by 2.20 cm before the backpack begins to slip, what is the coefficient of static friction between the backpack and the table?

i tried to use Fsmax = Mus of s times the normal force what should i use
 
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You have the equation. What is Fsmax? What is the normal force?

Use a free-body diagram to see all the forces.
 
stealth2k4 said:
A backpack full of books weighing 47.0 N rests on a table in a physics laboratory classroom. A spring with a force constant of 150 N/m is attached to the backpack and pulled horizontally. If the spring stretches by 2.20 cm before the backpack begins to slip, what is the coefficient of static friction between the backpack and the table?

i tried to use Fsmax = Mus of s times the normal force what should i use
{Normal Force of Books on Table} = FN = (47.0 N)
{Coefficient of Static Friction} = K
{Max Frictional Force on Books} = K*FN = (47)*K
{Spring Force Constant} = c = (150 N/m)
{Spring Displacement} = d = (2.20 cm) = (2.2e(-2) m)
{Spring Force Applied to Books} = c*d = (150 N/m)*(2.2e(-2) m) = (3.3 N)

Since books began to move with the above spring displacement, we have:
{Spring Force Applied to Books} = {Max Frictional Force on Books}
::: ⇒ (3.3) = (47)*K
::: ⇒ K = (0.0702)


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xanthym said:
{Normal Force of Books on Table} = FN = (47.0 N)
{Coefficient of Static Friction} = K
{Max Frictional Force on Books} = K*FN = (47)*K
{Spring Force Constant} = c = (150 N/m)
{Spring Displacement} = d = (2.20 cm) = (2.2e(-2) m)
{Spring Force Applied to Books} = c*d = (150 N/m)*(2.2e(-2) m) = (3.3 N)

Since books began to move with the above spring displacement, we have:
{Spring Force Applied to Books} = {Max Frictional Force on Books}
::: ⇒ (3.3) = (47)*K
::: ⇒ K = (0.0702)


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Please don't solve the entire problems. They won't learn from that.
 

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