The Length of a Curve: Calculating Using a Non-Traditional Approach

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The discussion revolves around calculating the length of a curve defined by the equation x = 3y^{4/3} - 3/32y^{2/3} over the interval -8 ≤ y ≤ 64. Participants are exploring the setup of the integral required for this calculation and questioning the complexity of the integral involved.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral for arc length and question whether there are alternative approaches to simplify the process. Some express concern about the complexity of the integral, while others suggest that the integral is manageable and correct.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants confirming the correctness of the integral setup and providing hints about simplifying the expression. There is no explicit consensus on an alternative approach, but guidance has been offered regarding the integral's structure.

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One participant notes a potential misunderstanding regarding the differentiation of the curve, indicating a need for clarity on the relationship between dx and dy in the context of the problem.

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Find the length of the curve

[tex]x = 3y^{4/3} - 3/32y^{2/3}[/tex]

from [tex]-8 \leq y \leq 64[/tex]

dy/dx = [tex]4*y^{1/3}-\frac{1}{16y^{1/3}}[/tex] <-- don't need to check this, i used a math tool to check it.

if i plug all of this into a integral, its going to be crazy. so i was wondering if there is a different approach to this problem

[tex]\int_{-8}^{64} \sqrt{1+{(4y^{1/3}-\frac{1}{16y^{1/3}})}^2}[/tex]
 
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DO it. Why would it be "crazy?" You've just got some power functions.
 
is my integral setup correctly?
 
So far, yes.

Actually MOST functions would give "crazy" arclength integrals- so teachers choose functions that simplify. Go ahead, square the formula and add the "1"- and see what happens (hint: the result is a perfect square).
 
your integral is correct, you just forgot the dy at the end.

[tex]\int_{-8}^{64} \sqrt{1+{(4y^{1/3}-\frac{1}{16y^{1/3}})}^2} dy[/tex]
 
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Find the length of the curve

[tex]x = 3y^{4/3} - 3/32y^{2/3}[/tex]

from [tex]-8 \leq y \leq 64[/tex]

dy/dx = [tex]4*y^{1/3}-\frac{1}{16y^{1/3}}[/tex] <-- don't need to check this, i used a math tool to check it.

if i plug all of this into a integral, its going to be crazy. so i was wondering if there is a different approach to this problem

[tex]\int_{-8}^{64} \sqrt{1+{(4y^{1/3}-\frac{1}{16y^{1/3}})}^2}[/tex]

I don't want to be picky, but what you differentiated was dx/dy, not dy/dx. That is how you could dx = {garbage}*dy.

Zz.
 

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