Calculating Electron Motion in a Uniform Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the motion of an electron in a uniform electric field, specifically how far it travels before reversing its direction. The context includes theoretical understanding and application of concepts related to electric fields and kinematics.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the scenario of an electron entering a uniform electric field and expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem correctly.
  • Another participant hints at using the force experienced by the electron in the electric field and suggests energy methods or kinematics to find the distance traveled.
  • A participant indicates a lack of understanding of kinematics and requests further elaboration on the topic.
  • One participant explains the direction of the electric field and how it affects the motion of the electron, emphasizing that the force on the electron is opposite to its velocity, leading to negative acceleration.
  • Two methods for solving the problem are proposed: one using kinematics to calculate distance based on negative acceleration, and another using energy conservation principles to relate kinetic and potential energy.
  • A participant asks for the original poster's attempted solution and inquires about the course context, suggesting that understanding the force exerted by the field and the kinetic energy of the electron is crucial.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concepts involved, with some proposing methods to solve the problem while others seek clarification. There is no consensus on a single approach or solution to the problem presented.

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Some participants mention the need for a deeper understanding of kinematics and the forces acting on the electron, indicating that assumptions about prior knowledge may affect the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying electricity and magnetism, particularly those encountering problems related to the motion of charged particles in electric fields.

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An electron traveling at [tex]2.5 \cdot 10^8 m/s[/tex] of passes through a hole in a screen into a region where there is a uniform electric field strength [tex]6.5 \cdot 10^4 N/C[/tex]. If the velocity of the electron is in the same direction as that of the electric field, how far does the electron travel before it reverses its direction of motion?

Now this is the question in its entirety, it was a question off my half-yearly examination which i attempted incorrectly. Now ultimately all i know to this question is that it has to meet an opposite charge before it can reverses it's motion...would anyone be nice enough for me to understand how to attempt this question correctly next time. Thanks
 
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Hint: What force does an electron experience in an electric field? Use energy methods or kinematics to find the distance. (Hint 2: The electron is move at an appreciable fraction of light speed.)
 
i know what happens to an electron in an electric field but that hasn't helped me understand. And also i don't think i covered kinematics. Can you elaborate please?
 
Consider a normal electric field...

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our electron enters the field which is normally consider as +ve to -ve ... Hence it enters the +ve side and is sent back in the reverse drection due to the opposing electric field... At least this is what i think is the answer...
 
yeah once again, i think that is very much elementary for the question at hand. Doc Al, can you please help.
 
I think The Thinker's diagram is actually useful because you don't seem to have grasped this point: in what direction does the electric field point, by convention? It points in the direction that a positive test charge would move under the applied field. A positive charge would move away from the positive side, and toward the negative side. Hence the electric field points from +ve to -ve. But we are told that the electron (a negative test charge) is moving in the same direction as the electric field! It is therefore moving away from the positive side! It clearly doesn't "want" to do that does it? It is only doing so because of its initial momentum. But it is actually going against the direction in which the field is trying to push it. Make sure you understand this point: the force on the electron due to the electric field is always in the opposite direction of the field, which is in the opposite direction of its velocity in this case. So there is a force acting to slow it down, to give it a negative acceleration. That's why it will eventually slow to a stop and switch directions. There are at least two methods of figuring out how far it will travel before that happens.

1. Yes, you do know what kinematics is. For surely you must have studied mechanics (the study of motion) of which kinematics is a small part. Kinematics deals with the properties of the motion of bodies. The other part of mechanics (dynamics) deals with the causes of the motion of those bodies, ie forces, Newton's laws etc. So you must have already done all of that if you are already into electricity. The kinematical method would be, knowing the magnitude of this opposing electric force, you know the negative acceleration on the electron. Given that, and its initial velocity, you can calculate how far it will travel before it decelerates to zero.

2. The energy approach works because there is a conservative force acting on the electron, doing negative work on it. Therefore, the particle's initial kinetic energy is being converted to potential energy, and all you need to know is how much work is done for that conversion to be complete. Then you can easily calculate how far it must have traveled for that much work to be done by that force.
 
aek said:
Now this is the question in its entirety, it was a question off my half-yearly examination which i attempted incorrectly.
Why don't you show us your attempted solution? Also, what class are you taking? (Is this for a course in which relativity is covered?)

After you read what cepheid explained, start by answering these questions: (1) what force does the field exert on the electron? (2) What KE does the electron have?
 
oryt let me scan it in
 

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