Solve Convergence of Series Problem: Find Bounds for x_0

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+n^2x}\) for \(x\) in the interval \((-1, 0)\), particularly focusing on pointwise and uniform convergence. Participants explore the implications of singularities and the behavior of the series within specific subintervals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes to analyze the series by considering \(x_0\) in intervals of the form \(\left(\frac{-1}{m^2}, \frac{-1}{(m+1)^2}\right)\) for \(m \in \mathbb{N}\).
  • Another participant asserts that due to the singularities at \(0\) and \(-1/n^2\), the series cannot converge uniformly.
  • A participant clarifies that the inquiry is specifically about pointwise and uniform convergence in defined intervals of \((-1, 0)\).
  • It is noted that pointwise convergence occurs in the intervals of interest, but uniform convergence is not achieved due to singularities at the endpoints.
  • One participant requests clarification on the theorems supporting the claims made regarding convergence.
  • A later reply mentions a potential dependence on \(x\) when using an epsilon-delta argument for proving pointwise convergence, especially near singular values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the series converges pointwise in the specified intervals but disagree on the uniform convergence, with some asserting it cannot be uniform due to singularities while others seek to clarify the reasoning behind this conclusion.

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Participants express uncertainty about the application of convergence tests and the implications of singularities on uniform convergence. There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific theorems applicable to the claims made.

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I need help with the following problem.

Consider the serie of function

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{1+n^2x}[/tex]

The serie is undefined for [itex]x \in \{0\}\cup \{-1/n^2, \ n\in \mathbb{N}\}[/itex]. I want to find wheter it converges pointwise in (-1, 0) or not and if it does, does it converge uniformly?

The way I would start this problem is by saying: For a given number [itex]m \in \mathbb{N}[/itex], consider

[tex]x_0 \in \left(\frac{-1}{m^2} \ ,\frac{-1}{(m+1)^2}\right)[/tex]

Consider

[tex]f_n(x) = \frac{1}{1+n^2x}[/tex]

Then

[tex]|f_n(x_0)| = \frac{1}{|1+n^2x_0|} = \frac{1}{|1-n^2|x_0||}= \left\{ \begin{array}{rcl} <br /> \frac{1}{1-n^2|x_0|} & \mbox{for}<br /> & n<\sqrt{\frac{1}{|x_0|} \\ <br /> \frac{1}{n^2|x_0|-1} & \mbox{for}<br /> & n>\sqrt{\frac{1}{|x_0|}<br /> \end{array}\right[/tex]

and

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}|f_n(x_0)| = \sum_{n=1}^{\left[\sqrt{1/|x_0|}\right]}\frac{1}{1-n^2|x_0|} + \sum_{n=\left[\sqrt{1/|x_0|}\right]+1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^2|x_0|-1}[/tex]

I'm guessing this serie converges, but I'm having trouble finding a convergent serie to bound it with. The other convergence tests have failed and the use of the integral convergence criterion is forbiden. I know that if there is a serie to bound it with, it would be of the form

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_n = \sum_{n=1}^{\left[\sqrt{1/|x_0|}\right]}\frac{1}{1-n^2|x_0|} + \sum_{n=\left[\sqrt{1/|x_0|}\right]+1}^{\infty}b_n[/tex]

with

[tex]\frac{1}{n^2|x_0|-1} \leq b_n[/tex]

for n > N.


Edit:

And if there exists such an N that also satisfies

[tex]N\leq \left[\sqrt{1/|x_0|}\right][/tex]

then according to Weirstrass M-test, the convergence is uniform.
 
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Because of all the singularities (0, -1/n2) in the interval, it can't converge uniformly.
 
quasar987 said:
The serie is undefined for [itex]x \in \{0\}\cup \{-1/n^2, \ n\in \mathbb{N}\}[/itex]. I want to find wheter it converges pointwise in (-1, 0) or not and if it does, does it converge uniformly?

That was not well said. What I meant to say is, does it converge pointwise and uniformly for the intervals in (-1,0) where the serie is defined. I.e. in the intervals

[tex]\left(\frac{-1}{m^2} \ ,\frac{-1}{(m+1)^2}\right), & m \in \mathbb{N}[/tex]
 
In the intervals of interest it converges pointwise, but not uniformly because of the blow ups at the end points of each interval.
 
On the basis of which theorem(s) are these statements made true? I would apreciate a quick answer because I need to hand out this question tomorrow!

Thanks!
 
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By the way, I have found how to prove the pointwise convergence, I just don't know how to prove that it's not uniformly convergent on these intervals.
 
I don't know what approach you are using to prove pointwise convergence. However, if you are using the old fashioned epsilon delta argument, you will see that there is a dependence on x when x is near a singular value.
 
I noticed that like 10 minutes before handing it out :biggrin:
 

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