Nonlinear Transformations from R to R: Meeting & Breaking Linearity Rules

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The discussion revolves around identifying nonlinear transformations from R to R that either satisfy or violate specific linearity conditions. Participants are tasked with providing examples of transformations that meet one linearity condition while breaking the other.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore various transformations, questioning their adherence to linearity conditions. Some suggest specific functions, while others challenge the validity of those suggestions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering hints and corrections. There is a focus on understanding the implications of the linearity conditions and how to construct examples that meet the criteria.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the homework problem, specifically the requirement to provide two distinct nonlinear transformations that satisfy different linearity properties.

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We know that a transformation from V to W is linear if the following hold:
1.) For every x, y in V, T(x+y) = T(x) + T(y)
2.) For every x in V and for every a in R (real numbers), T(ax) = aT(x)

I need two nonlinear transformations from R to R. One must satisfy #1 above and violate #2. The other must violate #1 and satisfy #2.
 
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Sounds like homework, so I'm moving it there. What have you done so far on this problem?
 
The second one is really simple.Just take a nonlinear operator

[tex]T(x)=x^{2}[/tex]

I'll let a mathematician deal with the difficult issue.

Daniel.


EDIT:The above is wrong.I'll let a mathematician deal with the whole problem.
 
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So are you claiming that T(ax) = aT(x) for your function?
 
Ooops,sorry,Hurkyl,didn't see it. :redface: That nasty quadratic breaks both if them...

Daniel.
 
I think T(u) = u + k works for #1 but not #2.

I don't know about the other one.
 
No, it doesn't. With that,

[tex]T(u+v) = u+v+k \neq u+v+2k = T(u) + T(v).[/tex]
 
Here's a hint...

Suppose T(x) satisfies #1, and that you know T(x). Then, you also know T(2x) and T(3x), right? What about T(x/2)? T(47x/163)?
 
PS, this is a standard method of attack, and it's a good way to learn what things "really" mean.

The whole point is to learn precisely what property #1 tells you, so you can find out what you can "break" so that property #2 fails. (and vice versa)
 
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No, it doesn't. With that,

[tex]T(u+v) = u+v+k \neq u+v+2k = T(u) + T(v).[/tex]

Data,

Touche! What was I thinking?
 
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It's a mistake we all make at least once -- the trick is to catch it before you tell anybody. :smile:
 

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