Double Integrals: Area or Volume?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of double integrals in calculus, specifically whether they can represent both area and volume. Participants explore the conditions under which a double integral may describe geometric quantities and the nuances involved in these interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a double integral can describe both area and volume, seeking clarification on how to determine which it represents.
  • Another participant draws a parallel to single integrals, suggesting that they too can represent area, volume, and length, indicating a broader conceptual framework.
  • A third participant provides a typical expression for a triple integral that describes volume, implying a distinction between single and double integrals.
  • It is noted that the interpretation of an integral depends on the specific problem being addressed, with examples given for calculating surface areas and volumes using double integrals.
  • A participant seeks confirmation on a mathematical expression related to surface area, indicating a focus on technical accuracy.
  • Discussion includes a correction regarding notation for surface equations, highlighting common learning challenges in understanding surface integrals.

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Participants express varying views on the interpretation of double integrals, with no consensus reached on when a double integral describes area versus volume. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple perspectives presented.

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Participants acknowledge that the interpretation of integrals can depend on specific definitions and contexts, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in the examples provided.

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I'm reading in my Calculus book, and I see (I may see wrongly) that a double integral can describe both an Area and a Volume. Is that true? If that's true, how do I know when the Double Integral is describing an Area or a Volume? Thanks.
 
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Well, it's sort of similar to how a single integral can be used to find both area and volume (and length, as well).
 
The typical triple integral describing a volume of a certain domain [itex]\mathcal{D}\subseteq \mathbb{R}^{3}[/itex] is

[tex]V_{D}=\iiint_{\mathcal{D}} \ dV[/tex]

Daniel.
 
It depends on your problem. An integral doesn't necessarily describe something geometric, but it can be used to calculate surface areas, for example:

[tex]\iint_D \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}\right)^2+\left(\frac{\partial g}{\partial y}\right)^2}dA[/tex]
or
[tex]\iint_D 1 dA[/tex]

or volumes:

[tex]\iint_R f(x,y)dA[/tex]

It depends on the problem.
 
ok thanks.
 
[tex]\iint_D \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}\right)^2+\left(\frac{\partial g}{\partial y}\right)^2}\partial A[/tex]

correct?
 
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Yeah,it was a typo by Galileo,but we usually write [itex]z=z\left(x,y\right)[/itex] when we indicate the equation of a surface in [itex]\mathbb{R}^{3}[/itex] explicitely .

Daniel.
 
Yeah you are correct, that was one of my problems when I was first learning surface integrals... whenever I would get stuck, I would jump to the conclusion that I could simply use that general equation to solve the problem--- but it only works in specific cases. (Or when you're scrambling on a final!)
 

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