Understanding the Confusion: Watts vs. Watts per Hour?

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The discussion revolves around the confusion between the terms "watts" and "watts per hour," particularly in the context of electricity billing and energy measurement. Participants explore the definitions and implications of these terms, as well as their practical applications in energy consumption.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that watts are defined as joules per second, questioning the validity of the term "watts per hour." One participant expresses confusion about how this could represent joules per second per hour.
  • Others clarify that the correct term is "watt-hours," which represents joules per second of power over an hour, suggesting that the confusion may stem from misinterpretation of the units.
  • One participant mentions that electricity meters display energy consumption in kilowatt-hours (kWh), equating this to joules and questioning whether the original example involved a multiplication of watts and hours.
  • Another participant reflects on their understanding of electricity billing, expressing uncertainty about whether it should be written as kilowatts per hour or kilowatt-hours, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the terminology.
  • There is a humorous acknowledgment of personal mistakes in remembering the correct terms, with one participant confirming that 1 kWh equals 3.6 MJ.
  • A later reply emphasizes that there is no physical quantity with the units of watts per second, suggesting that this would represent a rate of change of power, but notes that no specific name has been assigned to this concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the correct term is "kilowatt-hours" for billing purposes, but there remains some confusion and disagreement regarding the interpretation of "watts per hour" and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and applications of the terms discussed, indicating a need for clarity on the relationship between power, energy, and their respective units.

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I thought watts was defined as J/sec . So how can something be rated in watts/hour? Doesnt that mean Joules per second per hour?
 
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Where are you seeing this? You sure it isn't watt-hours (w * h)? A watt-hour is a joule per second of power - for an hour.
 
I've never heard of anything rated in W/hr. Your electricity meter shows your energy consumption in kWh (kilowatt hours), which would be Jh/s. So clearly one kWh = 3600 J (I hope I did that right). Are you sure the Watts and hours were not being multiplied in the example you saw?

edit: russ was quicker on the draw.
 
I thought like, your electricity bill is measured in KW/H... is it suppose to be KW*h?? I don't have it written down anywhere, i just always remembered electricity as being generated as KW/H... have i just been living with a bad assumption for these past few years lol
 
lol oh man, so I've been remembering and writing it down incorrectly? lol oh man... I am an idiot.

So 1 KWh, the thing your billed for... is 3.6MJ?
 
And it seems I forgot about the "kilo" in my post :redface:
 
Ah beautiful, now my calculations will make more sense.
 
There's no physical quantity which would have the (SI) units [itex]\frac{\mbox{W}}{\mbox{s}}[/itex].It would be the rate of variation of power (electrical or mechanical) in unit time,but no one asserted a name to it.

Daniel.
 

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