Change and Resistance: The Driving Forces of the Universe

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter scott_sieger
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Change Resistance
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of change and its relationship to resistance, particularly in the context of physical phenomena such as atomic fission and energy transformations. Participants explore theoretical implications and mathematical representations of change, as well as its perception in relation to time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that resistance to change can be viewed as a force that impacts energy dynamics, using the analogy of a bullet impacting a wall to illustrate this idea.
  • Another participant argues that change is inherently tied to time and memory, proposing that without these, change lacks meaning and suggesting that mathematical derivatives represent rates of change.
  • A later reply questions how the equation E=mc², which is said to apply in a rest frame, accommodates the concept of change and its resistance.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding the original question, indicating a lack of clarity in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of change, its relationship with time, and the implications of resistance to change. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the assumptions underlying their claims about change and resistance, and there are unresolved questions regarding the mathematical treatment of these concepts.

scott_sieger
[SOLVED] Resistance to change

Change in continuum


Just thoughts on the subject of change

When change is demanded of another. say a star requires it’s satellites to change due to it’s own changes and the “changor” refuses to change but the change is required the changor will essentially reconfigure it self until it changes.And by the same token the Changee loses energy in the attempt to change the changor.

It’s a bit like firing a bullet at a wall. The wall must conform to the change demanded by the bullet. In doing so the wall gets a hole in it. If resistance to change is not present then the energy of the bullet would not be lost.

I think what I am dwelling on here is that change could also be described as another force or maybe another force that is an outcome of other forces.

I am also thinking of, say, atomic fission where one particle requires change of another and this resistance to change generates outcomes such as heat and disintegration.

Is there any name given to this force apart from time? Is there any mathematical symbols used to describe change? (I was never good at maths)


We have Energy (the bullet) then we have resistance to that energy ( the wall) then we have an out come of that energy (Hole in wall and loss of energy in the bullet)

As the bullet passes through many walls the bullet loses it’s energy and eventually it has no ability to affect change.

The thinking is that for a good energy equation I am feeling that resistance to change has to be considered. And was wondering how e=mc^2 allows for this?

Any ideas?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
I don't know what you're talking about. Change is meaningless without time; without time and memory how can one even be aware of change? Yes, the math for change is the derivative of f(t) with respect to time, where f(t) is some function of time. Taking the derivative (any number of times) of this function tells us its rate of change (like velocity, m/s) or rate of rate of change (like acceleration, m/s^2) or even sometimes rate of rate of rate of change (like a jerk, m/s^3). I see change thus: It is a perception and an abstract concept, but has no true basis in reality, as no particle I know of has the ability to remember the previous instant, unless one considers its reaction to something that happened a moment ago to be a memory of that event. In this way, change is like numbers: it kind of exists in its own right, but not in the way you are asking about in this thread.
 
yes ...true ..change is self evident whether remembered or not...as such...but so is energy and so on.

But I think I was really asking how does E=MC^2 which is said to be at rest frame allows for the change needed because the energy used is always reflected on the energy needed to provoke change. How does Resistance to change come into the picture?

Maybe this question is too complicated to put into a few words?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I couldn't follow the question, sorry.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
1K
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K