Communicating with Mavs via Cellphone: Requirements & Configurations

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using a cellphone, specifically its components, for communication with a Micro Aerial Vehicle (MAV). Participants explore the potential for live video transmission, data handling capabilities, and the necessary computer configurations for high frame rate viewing. The conversation touches on bandwidth limitations, video compression, and alternative transmission methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a cellphone can effectively communicate with an MAV and transmit live video smoothly, considering data transmission rates.
  • Another participant suggests that typical cellphone bandwidth may be insufficient for smooth video transmission, especially on 3G networks.
  • A suggestion is made regarding the use of small cameras that can transmit directly to a television, implying alternative solutions for video transmission.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of 3G in certain regions, affecting the feasibility of using cellphones for this purpose.
  • Questions are posed about the bandwidth capabilities of ordinary cellphones and whether audio call bandwidth could be utilized for video transmission.
  • A participant inquires about the possibility of using a 16 MHz processor to send a modulated radio signal for video transmission and whether this could achieve the desired frame rates.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of compressing video using a method comparable to MPEG before transmission via cellphone.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the adequacy of cellphone technology for MAV communication, particularly regarding bandwidth and video quality. There is no consensus on the best approach or solution to the challenges presented.

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Limitations include uncertainty about the specific bandwidth capabilities of various cellphones, the performance of different compression methods, and the technical feasibility of using low-power processors for video transmission.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in UAV technology, telecommunications, video transmission, and those exploring innovative communication methods for aerial vehicles.

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Do you think a using a cellphone(just the necessary parts, not the whole body) for communication with a Micro Aerial Vehicle can work?
Will it be able to transmit a live video smoothly and handle the large amount of data transmission/sec?

If the video is constantly being downloaded on a computer, roughly what computer configuration is required to view it at a high frame rate?
 
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Please, does anyone have any idea?
 
I would suggest that the bandwidth is not nearly wide enough using normal phones.

Using 3G, you might just be able to do it (depending on what control requirements you have), but the video won't be anywhere near 'smooth'.
 
If you want to put a camera on a remotely controlled aircraft or vehicle, there are very small cameras that transmit a signal directly to a television.

http://www.hicam.com.au/art_faq.htm
 
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brewnog said:
I would suggest that the bandwidth is not nearly wide enough using normal phones.

Using 3G, you might just be able to do it (depending on what control requirements you have), but the video won't be anywhere near 'smooth'.

I live in India where 3G won't be available until next year so that is not an option for me.

By smooth, I mean atleast 7-8 frames/sec.

Are you referring to the bandwidth of internet available on cell phone? What is the bandwidth for normal phones?
How much bandwidth does an ordinary audio call of the cell have? Is it possible to use that method to transmit the video?

Is it possible using a 16 MHz processor on board to send a radio signal via cellphone modulating it 800*600 times/sec? This signal will then be interpreted by the computer and displayed as a video? Would that get the frame rates mentioned above?

Will black and white transmission at a smooth rate be possible?


Also what software would you recommend for modelling and calculating the airflow over the wings?

Would Enhanced Data GSM Environment work?
 
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Would compression of the video using something with performance comparable to MPEG and then transmission via cell work?
 

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