.Drawing Ray Diagrams: Tips & Tricks for Solving Problems

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The discussion revolves around drawing ray diagrams for a lab assignment involving a converging lens. The original poster describes a specific problem involving an object and its relationship with the lens, including dimensions and focal length, while seeking guidance on how to accurately represent the situation through ray diagrams.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correct method for drawing principal rays from the object to determine the characteristics of the image. There are questions about the interpretation of focal length and the implications of the sign convention in the lens equation.

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Some participants provide guidance on how to approach the drawing of ray diagrams and the application of the lens equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the calculations and the definitions involved, with no explicit consensus reached on the interpretations presented.

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Participants express confusion regarding the definitions of focal length and image distance, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts as they relate to the problem at hand.

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I'm having a lot of trouble drawing ray diagrams (this is for a lab assignment). If anyone could give me some tips or links to websites that are helpful in teaching how to draw ray diagrams that would be great. One example of a problem is: A 1-cm tall arrow (the object) is placed 2 cm to the left of a converging lens having a 7 cm focal length. Show all three pricipal rays. Is the image real/virtual?Erect of inverted? Measuring from diagram determine the location and magnification of the image.

Now I think that I draw an upright arrow, 1 cm tall, to the left of the lens and then 7 cm to the right of the lens i draw another arrow? Is it upside down, larger/smaller? I have no idea what I'm doing and the write up for the lab is not helpful. Please help! thanks
 
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You draw the three principle rays emanating from the tip of the 1-cm arrow you drew (which is your object). If you draw them correctly, they will meet at the point where the image of that arrow tip is. You'll be able to tell whether the image is real, inverted, magnified, just by looking at your (carefully drawn) diagram.

Here's a site that tells you how to draw those rays: http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/refrn/u14l5da.html
 
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For the problem I posted above would it be correct to do:

(1/do)+(1/di)=(1/f)=== (1/2)+(1/di)=(1/7), to get a di=-14/5=-2.8 cm, putting the image at 2.8 cm to the right of the lens?
Or am I completely clueless as to what focal length truly means, I thought it meant that the image was 7 cm from the lens.
 
Or am I completely clueless as to what focal length truly means, I thought it meant that the image was 7 cm from the lens.

No, that's not what it means. The focal length is the property of the lens itself.

to get a di=-14/5=-2.8 cm, putting the image at 2.8 cm to the right of the lens?

Notice that [itex]d_i[/itex] is negative. This means that the image is virtual. So, the image is to the left of the lens.
 
GingerBread27 said:
For the problem I posted above would it be correct to do:

(1/do)+(1/di)=(1/f)=== (1/2)+(1/di)=(1/7), to get a di=-14/5=-2.8 cm, putting the image at 2.8 cm to the right of the lens?
Your use of the lens equation is correct, but your interpretation of the minus sign is not. (See Berislav's comments.) The sign convention says that a positive image distance is to the right of the lens; a negative image distance, to the left.

Or am I completely clueless as to what focal length truly means, I thought it meant that the image was 7 cm from the lens.
A focal length of 7cm means that parallel rays will be focused at the focal point, which is 7cm past the lens; it describes how much the lens converges (or diverges) the light that goes through it. (The shorter the focal length, the more powerful the lens.) Where the image is formed depends on (1) where you put the object and (2) the focal length of the lens. To find where the image is, use the lens equation (just as you did).
 

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