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The discussion revolves around applying Green's Theorem to compute the area enclosed by a parametric curve defined by \(\vec r(t)=(2\sin(t)\cos(t),\sin(t))\) for \(0\leq t\leq \pi\). Participants are exploring the correct application of the theorem and the calculations involved in determining the area.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Green's Theorem but expresses uncertainty about their calculations, particularly regarding the derivatives \(dx\) and \(dy\). Other participants provide alternative expressions for \(x\) and \(y\) and suggest corrections to the derivative calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering corrections and alternative approaches. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or outcome, but guidance has been provided regarding the calculations of \(dx\) and \(dy\).

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The original poster mentions confusion regarding the notation and expresses uncertainty about their assumptions, indicating potential gaps in understanding the application of Green's Theorem.

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Ok, so I am obviously doing something wrong... but I don't know what it is. Here is the problem:

Use Green's theorem to compute the area inside the curve.
[tex]\vec r(t)=(2\sin(t)\cos(t),\sin(t))\,\,\,\,\,\,0\leq t\leq \pi[/tex]


Greens Theorem
[tex]\frac{1}{2} \oint_c x\,dy - y\,dx[/tex]

[tex]x = 2\sin(t)\cos(t)[/tex]
[tex]y = \sin(t)[/tex]

I'm guessing this is where I'm making my error, since I'm making an assumption about the notation.
[tex]dy = \frac{dy}{dt} = \cos(t)[/tex]

[tex]dx = \frac{dx}{dt} = 4(\cos(t))^2 - 2[/tex]

[tex]A = \frac{1}{2}\oint_0^\pi [(2\sin(t)\cos(t))(\cos(t)]\,dt-[(\sin(t))(4(\cos(t))^2 - 2)]\,dt[/tex]

Letting my trusty TI-89 eat up the integral and I get:

[tex]2\pi-\frac{4}{3}[/tex]

Well the online homework doesn't like this answer, so it must be wrong. I'm just unsure where I'm making the mistake. The notation is a little off the wall for me, so I'm not 100% sure with what I'm doing. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
 
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[tex]x = 2sin(t)cos(t) = sin(2t), dx = 2cos(2t)[/tex]

[tex]y = sin(t), dy = cos(t)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2} \oint_c x\,dy - y\,dx[/tex]

[tex]\frac{1}{2} \oint_c(sin(2t)cos(t) - 2sin(t)cos(2t))dt[/tex]

Maple says that equals 4/3
 
I think you miscalculated 'dx'.

[tex]x = 2sin(t)cos(t)[/tex]

[tex]dx = 2(cos(t)cos(t) - sin(t)sin(t))[/tex]

[tex]dx = 2(cos^2(t)-sin^2(t) = 2cos(2t) \mbox{ by a double angle identity.}[/tex]
 
Thanks man, the help was very much appreciated
 

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