Solving Green's Function for t^2x''+tx' - x = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation \( t^2x''+tx'-x = 0 \) and related concepts, including finding Green's Function and exploring the uniqueness of solutions for an initial value problem.

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  • Participants explore finding linearly independent solutions to the differential equation, with attempts to derive a second solution based on a proposed form. There are discussions about verifying the independence of solutions using the Wronskian.
  • Some participants question the approach to calculating Green's Function and express uncertainty about the steps taken, seeking clarification on the integration process involved.
  • There is a suggestion to simplify the problem by using specific solutions directly, raising questions about the implications of such choices.
  • One participant raises a point about the necessity of boundary conditions in defining Green's Function.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided guidance on potential simplifications, while others are questioning the methods used and expressing confusion about the calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem's requirements, including the need for continuous solutions and the implications of the global existence and uniqueness theorem. There is a focus on the behavior of solutions as certain limits are approached.

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a) Find two linearly independent solutions of [itex]t^2x''+tx' - x = 0[/itex]

b) Calculate Green's Function for the equation [itex]t^2x''+tx' - x = 0[/itex], and use it to find a particular solution to the following inhomogeneous differential equation.

[tex]t^2x''+tx'-x = t^4[/tex]

c) Explain why the global existence and uniqueness theorem guarantees that, if [itex]f:(0,\infty)\rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/itex] is continuous, the the initial value problem

[tex]t^2x''+tx' - x = f(t), \quad \quad x'(1) = x(1) = 0[/tex]

has a unique solution on [itex](0,\infty)[/itex]. Find an example of a continuous function [itex]f:(0,\infty) \rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/itex] such that the solution of the above IVP satisfies [itex]|x(t)|\rightarrow \infty[/itex] as [itex]t\rightarrow 0+[/itex], so that the solution is not continuous on [itex][0,\infty)[/itex].
 
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a)

Our differential equation is [itex]t^2x''+tx'-x=0[/itex] (1). A guess for a linearly independent solution to (1) is [itex]x(t) = t[/itex], so it makes sense that a second will be of the form [itex]x(t) = t - ty(t)[/itex].

We can check this by taking [itex]x(t) = t[/itex] to be a solution to (1). Where [itex]x'(t) = 1[/itex], and [itex]x''(t) = 0[/itex].

Substituting this into (1) we see that this is indeed a solution. Now we try [itex]x(t) = ty(t)[/itex], with [itex]x'(t) = y(t) + ty'(t)[/itex], and [itex]x''(t) = 2y'(t) + ty''(t)[/itex]. Note here that [itex]y(t)[/itex] is some function linearly independent to [itex]x(t)[/itex].

Substituting this information into (1) gives

[tex]t^2(2y'(t) + ty''(t)) + t(y(t)+ty'(t)) + ty(t) = 0[/tex]
[tex]t^3y''(t) + 2t^2y'(t) + t^2y'(t) + ty(t) - ty(t) = 0[/tex]
[tex]t^3y''(t) + 3t^2y'(t) = 0[/tex]

Which implies that

[tex]ty''(t) + 3y'(t) = 0[/tex]

Now we write [itex]z = y'(t)[/itex], then [itex]tz' +3z = 0[/itex]. This is a separable differential equation and can be solved

[tex]\int\frac{dz}{z} = -3\int\frac{1}{t}dt[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow \ln|z| = -3\ln|t|+C[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow z = \frac{c}{t^3}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow y = \int\frac{c}{y^3}dt[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow y = -\frac{3}{2t^2} + C[/tex]

Now take [itex]C = 0[/itex] and we have

[tex]x_1(t) = -\frac{3}{2t^2}t = -\frac{3}{2t}[/tex]

is another solution. If we let [itex]C = -3/2[/itex], then this can be written as [itex]x_1(t) = \frac{C}{t}[/itex]. And so the second linearly independent solution is

[tex]x(t) = t + \frac{C}{t}[/tex]
 
b)

We can verify these two solutions are linearly independent by solving the corresponding Wronskian matrix

[tex]W(x_1(t),x_2(t),t) = t\left(1-\frac{C}{t^2}\right) - \left(t+\frac{C}{t}\right) = -\frac{2C}{t} \neq 0[/tex]

Now we have the 2 Linearly independent solutions needed to generate Green's Function. We define Green's Function as

[tex]G(s,t) = -\frac{t}{2}\det \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> t & t+\frac{1}{t} \\<br /> s & s + \frac{1}{s}<br /> \end{array} \right)[/tex]

[tex]= -\frac{t}{2}\left(t\left(s+\frac{1}{s}\right)-s\left(t+\frac{1}{t}\right)\right)[/tex]

[tex]-\frac{t}{2}\left(ts+\frac{t}{s}-st -\frac{s}{t}\right)[/tex]

[tex]-\frac{t^2}{2} + s[/tex]

The solution should be

[tex]x(t) = \int_0^s G(s,t)t^4dt[/tex]

[tex]= \int_0^s -\frac{t^6}{2}ds + \int_0^s st^4ds[/tex]

[tex]= \left.-\frac{st^6}{2}\right|_0^s + \left.\frac{s^2t^4}{2}\right|_0^2[/tex]

Ok, as you can probably guess, I am way off track! I stopped here because I was leading nowhere.

Can anyone check all my working and find what I am doing wrong and how to proceed.

Cheers.
 
Why don't you just use t and 1/t as your solutions? if t is a solution and f(t) is a solution, then f(t)-t is also a solution, so you might as well subtract off t to make your life easier.
 
[tex]W(t,1/t) = \det\left(<br /> \begin{array}{cc}<br /> t & 1/t \\<br /> s & 1/s<br /> \end{array}\right)[/tex]

[tex]= \frac{t}{s} - \frac{s}{t}[/tex]

And so

[tex]G(s,t) = \int_0^s G(s,t)t^4dt[/tex]

[tex]= \int_0^s\left(\frac{t}{s} - \frac{s}{t}\right)t^4dt[/tex]

[tex]= \int_0^s\frac{t^5}{s}dt - \int_0^s st^3dt[/tex]

[tex]= \left.\frac{t^6}{6s}\right|_0^s - \left.\frac{st^4}{4}\right|_0^s[/tex]

[tex]= \frac{s^5}{6} - \frac{s^5}{4}[/tex]

[tex]= -\frac{s^5}{12}[/tex]
 
c)

Both solutions [itex]x_1(t) = t[/itex] and [itex]x_2(t) = 1/t[/itex] have continuous first-order partial derivatives with respect to [itex]x[/itex] on an open interval containing [itex](t_0,x_0)[/itex].
 
Don't you need boundary conditions to specify a Green's function?
 

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