Evaluate the following double integral

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating the double integral \(\int_0^1 \int_0^{\pi} y\sin(xy) \, dy \, dx\). Participants explore various methods and approaches to tackle the integral, including integration by parts and changing the order of integration. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques relevant to calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in evaluating the double integral and seeks assistance, indicating partial success with the first integral.
  • Another participant suggests interchanging the order of integration and integrating with respect to \(x\), proposing that this should simplify the problem.
  • A participant questions the feasibility of solving the integral without using variable rotation techniques, implying that such methods were not covered in their studies.
  • Another participant mentions using integration by parts for the inner integral and shares their result, but expresses frustration at not being able to proceed with the outer integral.
  • One participant shares their computed result for the inner integral but indicates that they are struggling to evaluate the resulting integral with respect to \(x\), seeking hints or tips for further progress.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to evaluate the integral. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective solution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express limitations in their knowledge of certain techniques, such as variable rotation, which may affect their ability to solve the integral. Additionally, there are unresolved steps in the integration process that contribute to the overall difficulty.

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Just had an exam and I had to evaluate the following double integral, with limited success :mad:

[tex]\int_0^1 \int_0^{\pi} y\sin(xy) {dy} {dx}[/tex]

I managed to compute the first integral, that was ok, using parts. But trying to integrate that with respect to dx just yielded a whole lot of trouble. Could someone have a skim over this and see if its do-able using elementary calculus procedures {I say elementary, but you know what I mean}.

Thankyou
 
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I would interchange the order of integration and integrate y Sin(x y) with respect to x to get -Cos(x y). Should be easy from here.
 
Rotation of variables was not covered at all... So say you weren't armed with that tool, what then? (not a cop out, honestly)
 
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Part integration wrt "y" and then integrate the result wrt "x",what else...?

Daniel.
 
The second integration w.r.t x wouldn't work for me... Right I am going to write down what I've done.

For the first inner integration, i have as follows:

[tex]\int_0^{\pi} y\cdot \sin(xy) dy = -\frac{\pi}{x}\cos({\pi x}) + \frac{1}{x^2} \cdot \sin({\pi x})[/tex]

I have tried with an abundance of attempts to evaluate all that as an integral with respect to x and I go nowhere conclusive, and its really starting to irritate me. Man, i suck at this.

Any hints or tips...please! :confused:
 
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