Spherical tank proportion question

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The discussion revolves around determining the radius of the water level "r" in a spherical tank based on the tank's radius "R" and the height of the water level "h". Participants explore geometric relationships and proportional reasoning related to the tank's shape.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of Pythagoras' theorem and the geometry of circles in relation to the tank's dimensions. There are attempts to derive a formula for "r" based on "R" and "h", with some questioning the relevance of certain mathematical principles due to the changing nature of the water level.

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There are multiple interpretations of how to relate the dimensions of the tank. Some participants have provided formulas and expressed a growing understanding of the relationships involved, while others continue to question assumptions and the applicability of certain mathematical concepts.

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Participants note that the rate at which the water level changes is non-constant, which may affect the application of certain geometric principles. The discussion includes references to the curvature of the tank and the implications for calculations.

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I need to know how to figure out "r" in this picture from "R" and "h". It is some kind of proportion or integral I'm guessing, but I can;t think of it. "R" is the radius of a spherical tank. "r" is the radius of the water level (not the same as "R") "h" is the height of the water level. Here is the pic. The water level will be draining out, that's why I need to figure out a GENERAL proportion.
Can someone help me!

here is the pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/sk3499/mathQ1.bmp
 
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Think of Pythagoras' theorem.
 
it's changing at a non constant rate if the water goes down. I can't see how pythagorian thm applies. I know how to do a conic tank, but it seems liek I would need to use the circles equation here for one of the sides, mabye the hypotenues, is that right?
 
Regard the triangle with one vertex in the centre, and sidelengths R-h,r and R.
How can you relate these sidelengths by Pythagoras' theorem?
 
r=Sqrt((R^2) - ((r-h)^2) )

is that right? Even then the curvature is greater near the bottom?
 
It should be:
[tex]r=\sqrt{R^{2}-(R-h)^{2}}=\sqrt{2Rh-h^{2}}[/tex]
What do you mean by curvature??
 
arildno said:
It should be:
[tex]r=\sqrt{R^{2}-(R-h)^{2}}=\sqrt{2Rh-h^{2}}[/tex]
What do you mean by curvature??

ok, thanks, that's making sense now.

so if I go (pi)*(r^2) with r equal to what we just came up with, I get the cross sectional area of the water at any time , right?
 
What do YOU think?
Don't be too unsure of yourself.

Welcome to PF.
 

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