Unbelievable Rainbow Phenomenon: 4 Cycles of Color!

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The discussion centers around a unique observation of a rainbow phenomenon involving multiple cycles of color, specifically noting the presence of magenta instead of blue in the inner arc and the repetition of color cycles. Participants explore potential explanations for this occurrence, including the role of internal reflection and interference patterns in raindrops.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes witnessing a rainbow with four overlapping color cycles, noting the unusual appearance of magenta instead of blue on the inner arc.
  • Another participant explains the phenomenon as a result of chromatic dispersion and interference of reflected waves, comparing it to thin film interference.
  • A later reply identifies the observed phenomenon as "supernumerary arcs," suggesting that traditional geometric explanations may not fully account for the observations.
  • Participants express curiosity and seek further explanations, with one sharing a link to additional resources on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the explanation for the observed rainbow phenomenon, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the nature of light and interference are not fully explored, and the discussion includes references to external resources for further information.

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Last evening there was the perfect rainbow condition: A bright evening sun shining into a rainstorm just overhead. I went outside to see both complete arcs from horizon to horizon . THen...


the inner rainbow (the most commonly seen rainbow, with red on the outside of the bow) looked odd: instead of blue on the inside, it was definitely magenta. Then I noticed that the entire cycle of colors repeated a total of four times. Each cycle overlapped the red on top of the previous blue (hence the magenta). Each cycle got fainter and tighter together so that I assumed that it continued ad infinitum but was too faint to be seen after the fourth order. I have never seen nor heard of this rainbow phenomena before. My only guess is that this is due to sunlight internally reflecting inside the raindrop for one, two, or three laps inside the drop before refracting out.

Has anyone heard of, or seen, or have an explanation of this?
 
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the rain bow originates from a process called chromatic dispersion, ie the different frequencies that make up the incident sun light (EM-wave) each are reflected under a different angle. The fact that such patterns repeat themselves is due to the interference of the reflected waves. This is just like the thin film interference on an oil-spot on the ground. Some times there will be reagons where it is dark. Light is reflected but there is destructive interference of the eflected waves. This is dependent of several facteros, the thickness of the oil-film being one of them

marlon

go check out hyperphysics http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html

chose light and vision and then atmosferic phenomena
 
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Chi Meson said:
Last evening there was the perfect rainbow condition: A bright evening sun shining into a rainstorm just overhead. I went outside to see both complete arcs from horizon to horizon . THen...

the inner rainbow (the most commonly seen rainbow, with red on the outside of the bow) looked odd: instead of blue on the inside, it was definitely magenta. Then I noticed that the entire cycle of colors repeated a total of four times. Each cycle overlapped the red on top of the previous blue (hence the magenta). Each cycle got fainter and tighter together so that I assumed that it continued ad infinitum but was too faint to be seen after the fourth order. I have never seen nor heard of this rainbow phenomena before. My only guess is that this is due to sunlight internally reflecting inside the raindrop for one, two, or three laps inside the drop before refracting out.

Has anyone heard of, or seen, or have an explanation of this?
Hey, we got that here, too - Sunday night. I'll post my pics later...
 
Great site, thanks. So, the name of these things are "supernumerary arcs." After a google search I found this explanation
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/rainbows/supform.htm
which is, like Marlon said, more similar to thin film interference. All sites I looked at said simple geometric/refraction explanations fail.
 
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