Material Science exam question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying a material that meets specific requirements outlined in a material science exam question: it must be thermally non-conducting, strong at temperatures exceeding 600K, and optically transparent. The scope includes theoretical considerations and material properties relevant to product design specifications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the requirement for optical transparency likely rules out metals.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the definition of "strong" in this context and questions the thermal conductivity of glass.
  • A participant suggests that diamond, while strong, may be too expensive for applications outside of cutting tools.
  • There is a discussion about the thermal conductivity of borosilicate glasses, with one participant suggesting that they might be suitable candidates.
  • One participant proposes Pyroceram as a potential candidate but emphasizes the need to quantify its strength.
  • Another participant reflects on the properties of glass, suggesting it could be strong when not in thin sheets and that it is thermally non-conductive.
  • Bulletproof glass is mentioned as a consideration, though concerns about the heat resistance of polycarbonate film are raised.
  • Sapphire (Al2O3) is introduced as another potential material, with references to its thermal and mechanical properties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on potential materials, with no consensus reached on a definitive answer. Multiple competing materials are proposed, and uncertainties about definitions and properties remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their understanding of material properties, such as the definition of "strong" and the thermal conductivity of different materials. There is also a lack of consensus on the suitability of glass and other materials under the specified conditions.

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hi all,

an interesting question in our exam today. we were asked to identify a material given these requiremets "that could have been extracted from product design specifications"

"thermally non-conducting, strong at temperatures in excess of 600K, and optically transparent."

any ideas?
 
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I bet the Pope would've gotten that one right. :wink:
 
Optically transparent requirement kind of rules out metals.

What materials are optically transparent?

Then which ones are strong at 600 K (327°C), while being thermally non-conducting?
 
... makes you want to "look out" to the window ... if not mistaking with values of conductivity ... and don't kind of know how to comprehend "strong" here :blushing: ... nice product specs :biggrin: .
 
yeah, the way i saw it, glass is quite thermally conductive. also it is certainly not strong, and it softens readily with the application of heat (although i wasn't sure if 300 C is anywhere close to the TG)

also diamond is way too expwnsive for any application that does not require extreme strength (like a cutting tool) even if it couldbe made to fit the geometry of the problem.

what else is transparent?
 
Yeah, the strength part kind of leaves it open for glasses ... even if thinking 'relatively' ... conductivity of some borosilicate glasses for one is under & around 1 W/mK ... probably easiest to figure out optically transparent materials first ... polymers are out ... can we find anything from electronic materials, displays & their coatings or so ?? ... lucky don't have to take your exams :biggrin: .
 
What would constitute strong (YS = 10 ksi / 70 MPa, or > 30 ksi / 210 MPa).

One candidate for the material might be Pyroceram, but that depends on quantifying strength.
 
yeah, i was lying in bed thinking about this one last night. glass is pretty (thermally) non-conductive come to think of it. Also it is quite strong when not supplied in thin sheets (or after tempering), and 300 C is not that hot, really.

perhaps it is glass! :blushing:
 
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I was initially thinking of bulletproof glass, but I'm not sure the polycarbonate film can handle much heat.

But then, if glass is good enough for rocket nose cones, perhaps that's enough for it to qualify as "strong".
 
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The other material that comes to mind is "sapphire", a form of Al2O3.

See - http://www.crystalsystems.com/sapphys.html

Thermal and mechanical properties -http://www.crystalsystems.com/proptable.html
 
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