What is a gear and what does it do?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of gears, their functions, and various applications. Participants explore the mechanics of gears, their design variations, and their role in torque transmission and rotational direction. The conversation also touches on a specific video related to gears and their functionality.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define gears as toothed wheels that transmit torque and highlight their design to minimize wear and maximize efficiency.
  • Others propose that gears can increase or decrease torque and RPM, and can also reverse the direction of rotation.
  • Different types of gear designs are mentioned, including straight-cut gears and more complex types like hypoids and double-herringbone gears, each suited for specific applications.
  • One participant shares links to videos showcasing innovative gear mechanisms, expressing excitement about their complexity.
  • Another participant questions the realism of a specific video, suggesting that the mechanics might involve hidden ramps or springs to explain the behavior of the wheels.
  • Concerns are raised about the stability of the wheels in the video, with some suggesting that weighted designs could allow for unusual movement patterns.
  • A participant recounts their experience with a Honda advertisement, asserting that the video was filmed in one continuous shot without animation.
  • Questions arise regarding the necessity for precise gear tooth dimensions under high RPM conditions, with some participants discussing the importance of gear design and tolerances for performance at high speeds.
  • One participant emphasizes the critical role of lubrication in high-speed gear operations, noting that excessive lubrication can be counterproductive.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the mechanics and applications of gears, with no clear consensus on certain aspects, particularly regarding the realism of the video and the necessity of precise gear dimensions under extreme conditions.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about gear behavior and design that may depend on specific applications or conditions, which are not fully explored or resolved in the conversation.

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What is a gear and what does it do?
 
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A Quote from Wiki:

A gear is a toothed wheel designed to transmit torque to another gear or toothed component. The teeth of a gear are shaped to minimize wear, vibration and noise, and to maximize the efficiency of power transmission.

-NewScientist
 
Thanks for the info.
 
To add to what NewScientist said, Gears are also many times used to increase torque (also lowering output RPM) or increase output RPM (also lowering output torque). Gears can also be used simply to reverse the direction of a rotation.
 
There are also many types of gear designs intended for different applications. They range from straight-cut types such as in a clock, up to exotic things like hypoids (car differentials) and double-herringbone (heavy industrial use). Each has advantages under certain circumstances.
 
Sometimes Gears are used to do super cool things! CHECK IT OUT!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/flash/honda-ad.html

(OK IM SORRY, THIS LOOKS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, I think its computer generated, I've never seen a tire roll like that before, it seems roll up that inlcine tooooo easily.)

Ok now for the good stuff, check this guys machines out, simply AMAZING!

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/ag-machines.html

I can't pick a favorite, but they are incredible! Click on the first one, the paper birds, its full of great gears and cams.

Cheers,

cyrus :-)
 
I heard that that clip is actually 100% real. Those tires made me think whoooooooooooa wait a second but i was thinken about it and there may be a curve or ramp type thing that the tires are on instead of a straight board like it seems to be. That would mean the slightest bump would make it fall down an incline and go forward. Or it could have been a spring or something that is holding it.

The very very first wheel to fall in the entire clip is suspcious too! Why is it turning like that?

First time i found out how gears work and how they can convert torque... i went nuts. I wanted to build like a million things.
 
I have an accord, and I had to change a flat, and I am telling you, those things don't roll up inclines like that. The weardest part is, if you notice the 2nd wheel on the incline, it hits the third and final wheel, rolls back, but then rolls up again! How in the heck did it do that without backspin!?
 
Those wheels were weighted at the top to make them inherantly unstable. Only a slight nudge would be needed to destabilize the system(the wheels) causing the wheels to roll. Make the weights big enough and the wheels will exen roll up a hill. Kind of like balancing a stick on a finger. The stick/finger system is inherently unstable and if not controller will collapse in most situations but if controlled the stick can be held in an unstable position for a long period of time. The animation is real though.
 
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I read a story on that clip "cog". It took 602 takes. Each time set back up from the beginning and tried again. It was all caught in one shot.
 
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Yeah, there was no animation involved, it's 100% real! It's my favourite advert of all time, with Honda's recent "hate something, change something..." ad coming second.
 
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I was actually working for Honda in Market Quality when that clip came out. We got to see if before anyone and its definitely 100% real.
 
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One question about gears. Is it absolutely vital like in RPMs of 3-4E5 for the teeth to have the same dimensions and thus fit perfectly into each other or if one teeth is short and has small width and the other is long and has wider width, can the gear survive under extreme conditions?
 
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We use gear boxes that routinely go over 50 krpm in our testing. Right now I have 3 tests either going or in the works that are in the ranges of 38 krpm and 56 krpm. The gear design is crucial for the power and speed range. To get a set to mesh is the biggest factor that will set the geometry of the two tooth profiles (obvioulsy). Because of that, there will not be a whole lot of variation between the two sets. The higher in speeds and power you go, the higher up the AGMA grade scale you'll go. That is where the tolerances on the profiles become much tighter and the backlash between them becomes much more controlled.

Lubrication becomes very cruicial as well at those speeds. One can have too much lubrication, so it is not a matter of simply throwing as much as you can at the gears.
 

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