Creating a Working Newton Cradle: Physics & Glass/Stone Balls

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of creating a working Newton's cradle using glass or stone balls, focusing on the physics of collisions and movement. Participants explore the reasons for unexpected behavior in the cradle's operation, including energy loss and material properties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that their Newton's cradle does not function as expected, with balls continuing to move together after collisions, potentially due to using glass or stone balls instead of metal.
  • Another participant suggests that friction at the attachment points and energy loss in inelastic collisions could be contributing factors, highlighting that metal balls are generally more elastic than glass or stone.
  • A different participant questions the role of friction, arguing that while it may slow down movement, it does not explain the type of movement observed after collisions.
  • One participant proposes that unequal mass of the balls could affect the cradle's performance.
  • Another participant raises the idea of totally inelastic collisions, suggesting that if the balls were made of a material that deforms without springing back, like clay, it would impact the type of movement.
  • A participant argues that stone balls should be elastic enough to achieve the desired movement, questioning the historical use of stone balls by Newton.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causes of the observed behavior in the Newton's cradle, with no consensus reached on the primary factors affecting its operation.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions about material properties, collision types, and the effects of mass, but these remain unresolved and depend on specific conditions of the setup.

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have been trying to make me own workig Newton cradle. I know some physics. the problem is that my balls don´ta completely stop moving after the coalition, they rather continua their movement but with a reduced violocity. This typ of movement increases and grows with the number of coalitions. At the end all of the balls move with eatch other. And that's not what i want. The balls i have been using are glas or stone balls. I could not get my hands on metal balls. Can that be the reason for this failure?
 
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Friction at the point where you attached the ball's to the support and loss of energy in inelastic collisions. Metal balls are much more elastic than glass or stone.
 
Thanks for replaying. I don't think friction is the answer to why the movement of the balls are not the way they are supposed to be. Friction can only explain why do movement slows down and gradually ends. The collision is inelastic, that means that the kinestic energy turns into heat but how can this effect the type av movment?
 
It could be that your balls don't have equal masss.
 
Craig113 said:
The collision is inelastic, that means that the kinestic energy turns into heat but how can this effect the type av movment?

What if the first collision were totally inelastic? This would be the case if the balls were made of something that deformed without springing back, like clay. Don't you think that would "effect the type av movement"?
 
Still, it does not make sense. Stone balls should be elastic enought to get the desired type of movement. I mean, what type of balls did Netwons himself use? Did he not use stone balls? I think he did.
 

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