How Do Pilots Manage Crosswind Landings?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and techniques involved in crosswind landings for pilots. Participants share personal experiences, technical insights, and humorous anecdotes related to aviation, particularly focusing on the complexities of landing in crosswinds.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that landing an airplane is straightforward, while crosswind landings present unique challenges.
  • One participant recounts a specific experience of landing a Cessna 172 in a 40-knot crosswind, emphasizing the importance of kicking out of the crab before touchdown.
  • There are humorous exchanges about the challenges of flying and the use of autopilot features, with references to pop culture and game shows.
  • Participants discuss the differences in flying techniques and equipment between various aircraft, including helicopters and fixed-wing planes.
  • Some participants question the capabilities of pilots on a game show, suggesting that even talented individuals struggle with landing under controlled conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features a mix of humor and technical insights, with no clear consensus on the ease or difficulty of crosswind landings. Participants share differing views on the challenges faced during such landings and the effectiveness of various flying techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific aircraft and conditions, but there is no detailed technical analysis or resolution of the challenges mentioned. The conversation includes personal anecdotes that may not reflect broader aviation standards or practices.

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Aviation enthusiasts, pilots, and individuals interested in the technical aspects of flying, particularly in challenging weather conditions, may find this discussion engaging.

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Whats with this bunch, land an airyplane its so simple, what a bunch of wallies,
now a cross wind landing is different, and more exciting, the most difficult
part of aviation i found was knowing where the heck i was.
 
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And your point would be?
 
FredGarvin said:
And your point would be?
I suspect a malfunction in his oxygen system.
 
wolram said:
the most difficult part of aviation i found was knowing where the heck i was.
I was always sitting down and facing front, myslef...How about you Danger?
 
Danger said:
I suspect a malfunction in his oxygen system.
:smile: Anoxia would have been my guess.

As Fred indicated, usually the pilot's seat or cockpit is the place to be while flying a plane.

Usually in aviation, one is in a plane or at least an airport, the place where there are lots of planes. :biggrin:

Krypton, one of the noble gases, is usually not associated with aviation.
 
FredGarvin said:
I was always sitting down and facing front, myslef...How about you Danger?
Usually. One does occassionally have to let George do the flying long enough to enroll in the mile-high club. :biggrin:
 
Oh my have you never heard of Krypton Factor.
The main challenge is to land the plane.
 
*Kia* said:
Oh my have you never heard of Krypton Factor.
The main challenge is to land the plane.
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. My worst challenge was putting a 172 down on target in a 40 knot 35º cross-wind. Even that's not hard as long as you remember to kick out of the crab before you plant the nose gear. :confused:
 
Danger said:
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. My worst challenge was putting a 172 down on target in a 40 knot 35º cross-wind. Even that's not hard as long as you remember to kick out of the crab before you plant the nose gear. :confused:
I believe the Krypton Factor is some type of game show in the UK.
 
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Evo said:
I believe the Krypton Factor is some type of game show in the UK.
Oh, well... it all makes absolutely no sense at all then. :-p

edit: Hey, Fred! I just thought of something. You round-wing weirdies don't have Georges, do you? Is there some kind of 'auto-hover' mode to let you into the club, or do you just hope that you don't kick something at an inopportune moment? :smile:
 
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FredGarvin said:
And your point would be?

On the TV show very talented brainy people can not land the thing, I am
sure the decent rate is set for them, all they have to do is keep it
straight and on the glide path, yet hardly any can do it.
 
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Danger said:
Hey, Fred! I just thought of something. You round-wing weirdies don't have Georges, do you? Is there some kind of 'auto-hover' mode to let you into the club, or do you just hope that you don't kick something at an inopportune moment?
There's altitude and heading hold, but not quite the same as what you guys use. I think the only place I have ever seen an autohover type of gadget was on Airwolf. You see, we have to stay awake and actually fly the machine...

I guess there are a lot of things that I wouldn't want kicked at all, let alone at an inappropriate time!
 
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wolram said:
On the TV show very talented brainy people can not land the thing, I am
sure the decent rate is set for them, all they have to do is keep it
straight and on the glide path, yet hardly any can do it.
You need to preface these things for us slow yanks. I'll have to see if I can find a website.

Most people can't drive cars, let alone land a plane.
 
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FredGarvin said:
I think the only place I have ever seen an autohover type of gadget was on Airwolf.

The Seaking Helicopter that the RAF use for Search and Rescue has an autohover, where it will hold a fix altitude but i don't think it works in forward motion!
 
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It must be similar to the altitude hold I am used to. However, I can't see it as an "automatic hover" since there are always corrections being made. It probably does the same thing ours does and simply eliminates having to adjust the collective and worry solely about the cyclic.
 
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Gordon Burns is now a newsreader for North West Tonight!

My hero, except he's no Peter Levy.
 

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