Gravity what holds us on the earth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of what keeps us grounded on Earth, specifically examining the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force due to Earth's rotation. It includes calculations related to the forces acting on a person at the equator and explores the implications of these forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the gravitational force acting on a 70.0 kg person to be approximately 688 N and questions how this force compares to the centripetal force required to maintain a fixed orbit at the equator's rotational speed of 1669 km/hr.
  • Another participant challenges the centripetal force calculation, stating it should be only 2.4 N for the same person, suggesting that gravity is sufficient to keep the person grounded.
  • A later reply suggests that the excess gravitational force is what causes a person to fall back to the ground after jumping.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is disagreement regarding the calculation of centripetal force, with one participant asserting a significantly lower value than the initial claim. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the correct centripetal force calculation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes potential errors in force calculations and assumptions about the nature of forces acting on a person at the Earth's surface, but these remain unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in physics concepts related to gravity, centripetal force, and motion, particularly in the context of Earth's rotation.

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This is probably a stupid question, but anyway...

If you calculate the force of gravity between the Earth and a, say, 70.0kg person, it comes out about 688N.

Now, we are spinning with the Earth and at the surface of the equator the speed is about 1669km/hr. If you calculate the centripetal force required to keep a 70.0kg person rotating in a fixed orbit (radius of earth) at 1669km/hr you will find it comes out around 3e7N.

So it would seem that we should just go flying off the planet because gravity cannot supply the centripetal force required to keep us orbiting with the same radius. How do we stay on the ground then? What have I missed?
 
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Your centripetal force is wrong. The force required on a 70 kg person is only 2.4 N. Gravity supplies 688 N, which is more than enough to keep the person on the ground.
 
Thanks James, a very dumb mistake.

So the 'leftover' force goes into accelerating us toward the Earth if we jump or something?
 
Yes. The leftover force is what pulls you down again when you jump up, or fall off something high.
 
Cool, thanks.
 

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