Solving Y=\sqrt{x}(x-1) Derivitive

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y = √x(x - 1), which involves handling the square root and applying differentiation rules. The subject area includes calculus, specifically derivative calculations and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Participants discuss how to approach the differentiation of the function, with some suggesting distribution of terms and others referencing power rules. There are questions about the correct application of these methods and the simplification of expressions.

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The discussion is active with various methods being explored for deriving the function. Some participants provide guidance on distribution and power rules, while others express confusion about specific steps and terminology. There is no explicit consensus on a single approach, but multiple perspectives are being considered.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings regarding the use of mixed fractions versus improper fractions in their calculations. There is also mention of the complexity introduced by different methods of distribution and differentiation.

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How do I deal with the square root in [itex]y = \sqrt{x}(x - 1)[/itex]?
 
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[tex]\sqrt{x} = x^{(\frac{1}{2})}[/tex]

Distribute and take it away.

Also, remember that [tex]a^x*a^y=a^{(x+y)}[/tex]
 
You know the simple formula for deriving powers of x, right? Well, [itex]\sqrt{x}=x^{\frac{1}{2}}[/itex]

EDIT: I was slow. Sorry, I didn't mean chain, I meant distrubution for derivation (didn't know what you call it in English).
 
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Can I get any further that here?

[tex]\left(x - 1\right)\left(\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\right) + \sqrt{x}[/tex]
 
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You're making it more complicated than necessary.

Distribute the [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex] then take the derivative.

Ok, your way works, but I wouldn't do it that way. That's the beauty of it though, many correct ways to get the same answer.
 
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[tex]1\frac{1}{2}x^{\frac{1}{2}} - \frac{1}{2}x^{-\frac{1}{2}}[/tex]

correct?
 
First part is incorrect, second part is correct.
 
Hmm I don't see how :frown:

[itex]x^{\frac{1}{2}} \cdot x^1 = x^{1.5}[/itex] so doesn't that become [itex]1.5 \cdot x^{\frac{1}{2}}[/itex]?
 
Oh, ok. You were righting a mixed fraction. It would be best to write 1.5 as [itex]\frac{3}{2}[/itex]

Try not to use mixed fractions, they get too confusing. Use improper ones.

For example: take the derivative of [tex]3\frac{1}{2}\frac{5}{7}x^4[/tex] with respect to x. Make sense?
 
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Oh, ok. You were righting a mixed fraction. It would be best to call 1.5 [tex]\frac{3}{2}[/tex]

Try not to use mixed fractions, they get too confusion. Use improper ones.

Thanks for the tip and your help (Berislav too) :smile:
 

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