Volume inside Sphere, outside Cylinder

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of the region that lies inside a sphere defined by the equation x² + y² + z² = 2 and outside a cylinder defined by x² + y² = 1. The problem involves concepts from geometry and calculus, particularly in the context of multiple integrals and volume calculations.

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  • Participants explore different methods for calculating the volume, including cylindrical coordinates and symmetry, as well as alternative approaches like concentric cylindrical shells and washers. There are discussions about whether calculus is necessary for the solution, with some suggesting a more straightforward geometric approach.

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Some participants express confidence in the calculations presented, while others offer alternative methods and raise questions about the assumptions made regarding the geometry of the cylinder and sphere. There is acknowledgment of the expected methods for the class, and a suggestion that additional calculations may be needed to account for the geometry of the cylinder's ends.

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Participants note that the problem may require specific methods as dictated by class expectations, and there is mention of the need to consider the top and bottom areas of the cylinder in the volume calculation.

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Just wondering if I did this correct.



Find the volume of the region that lies inside the sphere [tex]x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 2[/tex] and outside the cylinder [tex]x^2 + y^2 = 1[/tex]
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Using cylindrical coordinates, and symmetry, I got:

I went up the z-axis, hitting z = 0 first, then exiting at [tex]z = \sqrt{2-r^2}[/tex]

So, the projection is two circles, one with r=1 and the other [tex]r=\sqrt{2}[/tex]

[tex]2 \int_{0}^{2\pi}\int_{1}^{\sqrt{2}}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{2-r^2}} r dz dr d\theta[/tex]

Which is then

[tex]4\pi \int_{1}^{\sqrt{2}} r \sqrt{2-r^2} dr[/tex]

Let[tex]u = 2-r^2<br /> => du = -2rdr <br /> => \frac{-du}{2} = rdr[/tex]

Then I got:

[tex]-2\pi \int_{r=1}^{r=\sqrt{2}} \sqrt{u}du = \left[ -2\pi \frac{2}{3} u^\frac{3}{2} \right]_{r=1}^{r=\sqrt{2}}[/tex]

[tex]\left[ \frac{-4\pi}{3}(2-r^2)^\frac{3}{2} \right]_{1}^{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]

Which equals [tex]\frac{4\pi}{3}[/tex]

Look ok? Thanks.
 
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Looks good. Could also have been done by the methods of "concentric cylindrical shells" or "washers" ususually used to introduce volumes of revolution, but multiple integration gets you to the same place.
 
It's not really necessary to use calculus at all! The cylinder is given by x2+ y2= 1. That will intersect the sphere when x2+ y2+ z2= 1+ z2= 2: that is, when z= -1 and 1 so the cylinder has height 2. The volume of a sphere with radius [tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] is [tex]\frac{4}{3}\pi (\sqrt{2})^3= \frac{16\sqrt{2}}{3}\pi[/tex]. The volume of a cylinder with radius 1 and height 2 is [tex]\pi (1)^2(2)= 2\pi[/tex]. The volume of the region between them is [tex]\frac{16\sqrt{2}}{3}\pi-2\pi= \frac{16\sqrt{2}-6}{3}\pi[/tex].
 
Well it may not be necessary to use calculus, but this is the way it is expected to be done for the class I am taking.

Also, I think you forgot the two areas (the top and bottom). Shown here:

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/9403/areaforgot9ew.gif
 
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Of course, the formula I gave was for a cylinder with flat tops. I suspect the problem means the part of the infinite cylinder contained within the sphere- that is, yes, you have to subtract off the two top and bottom volumes. You will need to use calculus to find those. The disk method ought to work.
 

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