Calculate Volume with Cylindrical Shells: y=x^2-3 & y=2x

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume generated by revolving the area bounded by the curves y = x^2 - 3 and y = 2x about the line x = 7 using the method of cylindrical shells. Participants are exploring the setup of the integral required for this calculation.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up the integral for the volume calculation but expresses confusion regarding the intersection points of the curves. Other participants question the accuracy of these intersection points and suggest verifying the calculations. There is also discussion about the formulation of the integral itself.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the setup of the problem, with some providing corrections to the original poster's calculations. There is a recognition of the need to accurately determine the limits of integration, and some guidance has been offered regarding the integral setup.

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There is mention of potential errors in the calculation of intersection points, which are critical for establishing the limits of integration. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to ensure the problem is understood correctly before proceeding with the solution.

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Hi I'm stuck on an integration problem where I need to use the method of cylindrical shells to calculate a volume.

Q. Using the method of cylindrical shells, find the volume generated when the area bounded by the curve y = x^2 - 3 and the line y = 2x is revolved about the line x = 7.

The main thing that I'm having trouble with is setting up the integral. I think it's due to a limited conceptual understanding of what's going on with questions of this type. I started by drawing a quick sketch and finding the x values of intersection, x = +/- sqrt(3).

I drew a cylinder, with the vertical axis x = 7 going through its centre, around the region.

Volume(cylinder) = (circumference)(height)(thickness) = CHT

[tex] C = 2\pi r = 2\pi \left( {7 - x} \right)[/tex]

[tex] H = 2x - \left( {x^2 - 3} \right) = - x^2 + 2x + 3[/tex]

T = dx

[tex] V = 2\pi \int\limits_{ - \sqrt 3 }^{\sqrt 3 } {\left( {7 - x} \right)\left( { - x^2 + 3x + 3} \right)dx} [/tex]

That's what I came up with. I can't check to see if my answer is correct because I don't have the solution to the question. Any help with this question would be good thanks.
 
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Well, the first thing you've done wrong is miscalculate the x values of the intersection of the curves. They are not [tex]\plusminus\sqrt{2}[/tex]!
Show how you got that value and we may be able to point out your mistake.
Other than that, it looks like you have the right integral.
 
So what'd you get Benny? To find the intersection of two curves f(x) and g(x), just set them equal to each other right? So set those two equal, solve for x and you have the limits of integration. I made a plot.
 

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Hmm...x^2 - 3 = 2x => (x-3)(x+1) = 0 => x = 3 or -1. I don't know how I got +/- sqrt(3) the first time around. Thanks for pointing that out.

So continuing from before(the quadratic should have a 2x term instead of 3x in my previous post).

[tex] V = 2\pi \int\limits_{ - 1}^3 {\left( {7 - x} \right)} \left( { - x^2 + 2x + 3} \right)dx[/tex]

[tex] = 2\pi \int\limits_{ - 1}^3 {\left( {x - 7} \right)\left( {x^2 - 2x - 3} \right)dx} [/tex]

[tex] = 2\pi \int\limits_{ - 1}^3 {\left( {x^3 - 9x^2 + 11x + 21} \right)dx} [/tex]

[tex] = 2\pi \left[ {\frac{{x^4 }}{4} - 3x^3 + \frac{{11x^2 }}{2} + 21x} \right]_{ - 1}^3 [/tex]

[tex] = 2\pi \left( {\left( {\frac{{81}}{4} - 81 + \frac{{99}}{2} + 63} \right) - \left( {\frac{1}{4} + 3 + \frac{{11}}{2} - 21} \right)} \right)[/tex]

[tex] \mathop = \limits^{calculator} 128\pi [/tex]

Edit: BTW saltydog, which program do you use to draw those sketch graphs?
 
Benny said:
[tex] \mathop = \limits^{calculator} 128\pi [/tex]

Edit: BTW saltydog, which program do you use to draw those sketch graphs?

That's what I got. I use Mathematica. Try and check it out. Your school should have it. You know, Mathematica is also good to back-substitute solutions into ODEs to verify the solutions. Good for lots of other things too.:smile:
 
Benny said:
[tex] \mathop = \limits^{calculator} 128\pi [/tex]

Edit: BTW saltydog, which program do you use to draw those sketch graphs?
saltydog said:
That's what I got. I use Mathematica. Try and check it out. Your school should have it. You know, Mathematica is also good to back-substitute solutions into ODEs to verify the solutions. Good for lots of other things too.:smile:
Some Mathematica functions are avilable online at

http://www.quickmath.com/

Click on equations and advanced equation plotting page
 

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