Calculate the forward driving force which accelerates the car down the slope.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the forward driving force acting on a car on an inclined plane, specifically focusing on the resolution of the weight vector into components parallel and perpendicular to the slope. The car's weight is given as 760N and the incline angle is 6.8 degrees.

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  • Participants explore the reasoning behind resolving the weight vector into perpendicular components, questioning why other pairs of components could not be used. They discuss the geometric interpretation of the weight vector and its components in relation to the incline.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on vector resolution. Some provide geometric explanations while others question the necessity of using specific perpendicular components. There is a clear exploration of the underlying concepts without a definitive consensus.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the mechanics of forces on inclined planes, particularly in the context of frictionless scenarios. Participants are also addressing the limitations of vector resolution methods in relation to the problem at hand.

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There is a 760N heavy car on a plane which is inclined to the horizontal at an angle of 6.8 degrees. Calculate the forward driving force which accelerates the car down the slope.
I know the answer is 760sin6.8. I know that the forward driving force has a direction which is parallel to the slope.The thing I want to know is why the 760N vector is resolved into its perpendicular component? We can have an infinite no. of pairs of components in which one of the component has a direction which is parallel to slope.
why can't we resolve it like that:


|*... unknown vector parallel to the slope
|...*
|...*
|_________*. <-----------This angle is 6.8deg.
unknown vector pointing towards left

I hope that you guys understand what I am saying. Thanks in advance for any help.

:smile:
 
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I have alwasy been unable to add diagrams so I am going to try and explain it.

Imagine a plane (6.8 degrees to the horizontal) and the horizontal plane itself. Now imagine the weight from the car (represented as an arrow from the car - perpendicular to the horizontal plane). The horizontal plane and the weight arrow will form a right angle. You want to know the component of the weight that acts down the slope. Imagine that the weight arrow is the hypotenuse of another triangle. Another of the sides is perpendicular to the inclined plane (and comes from the same point as the weight arrow). Then join the two so that you have a right-angled triangle. The angles will means that you will work out the side that joins the two you know (e.g. the line parallel to the inclined plane). Work this side out for 760 sin 6.8.

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Whenever you put something on the slope (light enough for the slope to support, otherwise the slope will be broken), you will see it accelerates down. Because the (frictionless) slope can only exert a force that is perpendicular to its surface. So it will cancel out the perpendicular force to its surface. And the force that's parallel to its surface remains intact (this force will accelerate the object down the slope). That's why you must break the [tex]\vec{P}[/tex] into 2 forces.
Hope you get it,
Viet Dao,
 
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If I got your problem correectly you want to know that why we resolve a vector in two mutually perpendicular direction, not in the directions making acute or obyuse angle...right?

[q is for theeta]

We know that the projection (effectiveness) of a vector A in a direction making angle q is A*cos q which is zero if q is 90. thus we take the components in the direction q and 90 - q i.e. A*cos q and A*cos (90 - q) [=A*sin q] so that both components have no effect in each other's direction, otherwise we have to take component of other component in that direction.
 

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