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The discussion revolves around operations with functions, specifically the functions f(x) = (x+1)/(x-1) and g(x) = 1/x. The original poster presents various operations involving these functions, including addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, as well as composition. Additionally, there are polynomial multiplication and division problems included.

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  • The original poster attempts to perform operations on the functions f and g but expresses confusion regarding their results and the handling of fractions and exponents. Some participants question the correctness of the original poster's answers and suggest checking steps for clarity. Others emphasize the importance of using parentheses for clarity in function operations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's queries, providing feedback on the correctness of the answers and suggesting methods for checking work. There is a mix of guidance on how to approach the problems and requests for more detailed steps from the original poster. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, particularly regarding domain restrictions and function equality.

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Some participants note the importance of identifying domain restrictions, particularly where denominators may equal zero. The original poster's omission of detailed work raises questions about the assumptions made in their calculations.

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I have a lot of questions and I know I'm supposed to show all my work but the post would be insanely long, so I will show you what answers I have come up with on the ones that I managed to get that far. I know how to do these but I often get hung up on the fractions and trying to get rid of the exponents

For functions:
f(x)= (x+1)/(x-1)
g(x)= 1/x

Find:

A. f+g
I got 2x+2/x^2-x

B. f-g
I got 0

C. f*g
I got x+1/x^2-x

D. f/g
I got x^2+1/x-1

E. f o g (x)
I got 2x/1-x


These ones I am having difficulty with, sorry for not showing my work, some answers would be very much appreciated though.

Multiply:
a. (x^2-2)^3

b. (x^2+3x+5)(x+2)

c. (2x^2-6x)(2x-4)

Divide and define restrictions:
a. (2x^3-x^2+2x-3) / (x-1)

b. (x^5-x^4-4x^3+8x^2-32x+48) / (x^2+4)

c. (x^5-1) (x-1)

Thanks again for the help, hopefully this is just the forum I was looking for!
 
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For functions:
f(x)= (x+1)/(x-1)
g(x)= 1/x

First thing you need to use parenthesis to make things clear. Check your steps in these, I could not as you did not post them. An easy check is to remember function equallity means equallity for all function. values.
f(-1)=0 g(-1)=-1
Find:

A. f+g
I got 2x+2/x^2-x
no
(f+g)(-1)=f(-1)+g(-1)=-1
I would really like to see the steps that led to this, and where if anywhere you intended parenthesis
B. f-g
I got 0
no
(f-g)(-1)=f(-1)-g(-1)=0-(-1)=1
C. f*g
I got x+1/x^2-x
yes if you meant (x+1)/(x^2-x)
(f*g)(-1)=f(-1)*g(-1)=0*(-1)=0
((-1)+1)/((-1)^2-(-1))=0
D. f/g
I got x^2+1/x-1
no
(f/g)(-1)=f(-1)/g(-1)=0/(-1)=0
E. f o g (x)
I got 2x/1-x
no
(f o g)(-1)=f(g(-1))=f(-1)=0
2(-1)/1-(-1)=-2+1=-1
2(-1)/(1-(-1))=-1
These ones I am having difficulty with, sorry for not showing my work, some answers would be very much appreciated though.

Multiply:
a. (x^2-2)^3

b. (x^2+3x+5)(x+2)

c. (2x^2-6x)(2x-4)
For these remember distribution
example
(3x+2)(7x-5)
=7x(3x+2)-5(3x+2)
=21x^2+14x-15x-10
=21x^2-x-10
a(b+c)=a*b+a*c and commutitivity a*b=b*a
Divide and define restrictions:
a. (2x^3-x^2+2x-3) / (x-1)

b. (x^5-x^4-4x^3+8x^2-32x+48) / (x^2+4)

c. (x^5-1) (x-1)
use polynomial long division, factor, or rearrange to get thing that will divide
Some would restrict if the denominator is zero, likely you only want to restric if the order of the numerator is less than of the denominator. ie (x+1)/(x-1) restrict x=1 but (x-1)^4/(x-1)^3 do not. Check your book.
Here is an example
(x^3+3x^2+3x+1)/(x+1)
=(x^3+x^2+2x^2+3x+1)/(x+1)
=(x^2(x+1)+2x^2+2x+x+1)/(x+1)
=(x^2(x+1)+2x(x+1)+(x+1))/(x+1)
=(x^2+2x+1)(x+1)/(x+1)
=x^2+2x+1
 
Show us your work at least for the first ones. As lurflurf told you, you have every one of them wrong. It should at least be obvious that since f and g are not the same, f- g cannot be 0!
 
Thanks for the help, although I am a bit confused. These numbers you came up with are the numbers for which the domain cannot be, correct? Is that the final answer I should be coming up with?
 
ability said:
Thanks for the help, although I am a bit confused. These numbers you came up with are the numbers for which the domain cannot be, correct? Is that the final answer I should be coming up with?
I sugested that when combining function, until you are more comfortable, that you check your self by using some numerical examples. Function equallity is defined by equallity for all numbers in the domain. So you can check if your answer is right. i.e. if (x+1)(x-1)=x^2-1 then this holds for all numbers. If a mistake is made and you think (x+1)(x-1)=x^2+1 it can be seen that this is an error because if x=2 (2+1)(2-1)=2 but 2^2+1=5. Also when combining functions make sure to exclude any problems from the domain. In problems like these the main thing to look for is zeros in denominators. See what your book says about cancelation, in many books something like x/x=1 is considered ok for all x since the numerator and denominator are zero together when x=0. You should look for mistakes in your work, and post some of you can not find them. So to combine functions just write the functions out with the desires operation, and simplify as needed. When multiplying remember distributive rules. When dividing flip and multiply. When dividing think about when denominators are zero.
Final answer should be the combined function and any domain restrictions that are appropriate.
ie
f(x)=(x+2) g(x)=(x-3)
(f/g)(x)=f(x)/g(x)
(f/g)(x)=(x+2)/(x-3)
so domain is all real numbers except 3
 

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