Why Choose Phenolphthalein Over Bromothymol Blue for Equivalence Point at pH 7?

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The discussion revolves around the choice of indicators for determining the equivalence point in a titration, specifically comparing phenolphthalein and bromothymol blue at a pH of 7. Participants explore the effectiveness of each indicator based on their pH transition ranges.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the pH ranges of the indicators and how they relate to the equivalence point. Some question whether the equivalence point being at pH 7 makes bromothymol blue suitable, while others suggest that phenolphthalein provides clearer results due to its distinct color change.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants presenting differing views on the suitability of each indicator. Some have offered reasoning for their preferences, while others are seeking clarification on the best choice based on the titration setup.

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There is a lack of consensus on which indicator is more appropriate, with participants considering different scenarios regarding the placement of acid and base in the titration setup.

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Why is it better to use phenolphthalein than bromothymol blue to determine the equivalence point which is equal to 7?

bromothymol blue: 6.0 - 7.6 yellow @ blue
phenolphthalein: 8.3 - 10.0 colorless @ pink

 
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My guess would be that since 7 falls inside the range for the blue you would have to stop the titration while the color is still mixed. With phenolphthalein you stop when it completely changes color which makes it easier to obtain consistent results rather then trying to interpret the mix of colors.
 
zwtipp05 said:
My guess would be that since 7 falls inside the range for the blue you would have to stop the titration while the color is still mixed. With phenolphthalein you stop when it completely changes color which makes it easier to obtain consistent results rather then trying to interpret the mix of colors.
Actually, that is not quite right. The best indicator to use for a titration is one which the equivalence point (pH) falls into the range - preferably the middle - of the indicator. In this case, the bromothymol blue would be ideal, because it would change colour when the pH equals about 7. The phenolphthalein won't even start to change colours.
 
Assuming this is a strong acid vs strong base titration, what solution is in the burette?

From what Zwtipp05 posted, I think he means that the acid is in the burette and the base is in the conical flask along with the indicator.

And according to christinono, the base is in the burette and the acid is in the conical flask along with the indicator.
 
As siddharth said, let's assume it is a strong acid/base titration.

Either way (acid or base in burette), only one of the indicators is the best to use but can Chocolaty tell me which and his reasons why?

However, even though two ways have been suggesed, only one is correct. The acid should go in the burette.

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