Sequences of positive numbers and limits

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the behavior of two sequences of positive numbers, (x(n)) and (y(n)), under specific limits. It establishes that if lim(x(n)/y(n)) = 0 and lim(x(n)) = +∞, then lim(y(n)) must also equal +∞. Conversely, if (y(n)) is bounded, then lim(x(n)) approaches 0. The proof utilizes the definitions of limits and epsilon-delta arguments to demonstrate these relationships rigorously.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of limits in calculus
  • Familiarity with epsilon-delta definitions
  • Knowledge of sequences and their properties
  • Basic mathematical proof techniques
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the epsilon-delta definition of limits in depth
  • Explore proofs involving sequences and their convergence
  • Learn about bounded sequences and their implications
  • Investigate applications of limits in real analysis
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, students studying real analysis, and anyone interested in the properties of sequences and limits in calculus.

iNCREDiBLE
Messages
128
Reaction score
0
Let (x(n)) and (y(n)) be sequences of positive numbers such that lim(x(n)/y(n)) = 0.
If lim(x(n)) = +∞, then lim(y(n)) = +∞
If (y(n)) is bounded, then lim(x(n)) = 0

To me this is self-evident. But HOW can it be proved?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
applications of definitions:

for any [tex]\epsilon > 0[/tex] there's an [tex]n_\epsilon :[/tex] if [tex]n > n_\epsilon[/tex] then [tex]|\frac {x_n} {y_n}| < \epsilon[/tex] and for any [tex]M > 0[/tex] there's an [tex]n_M :[/tex] if [tex]n > n_M[/tex] then [tex]|x_n| > M[/tex]

then for any [tex]M > 0[/tex] there's a k := max {[tex]n_M; n_\epsilon[/tex]} : if [tex]n > k[/tex] then [tex]|\frac {x_n} {y_n}| < \epsilon[/tex] and [tex]|x_n|> M[/tex] then [tex]\epsilon|y_n|>|x_n|> M[/tex] then [tex]|y_n|> \frac {M} {\epsilon} > M[/tex]

CVD
 
Last edited:
The other is possibly simpler:

[tex]\exists M > 0 : \forall n \in \mathbb{N}, |y_n| < M[/tex]
[tex] \forall \epsilon > 0, \exists n_{\epsilon} : n > n_{\epsilon} \Rightarrow |\frac {x_n} {y_n}| < \epsilon[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow \forall \delta > 0, \exists n_{\delta} : n > n_{\delta} \Rightarrow \frac {|x_n|} {\delta} < |y_n| < M[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow |x_n| < \delta M, \delta := \frac {\epsilon} {M}[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow \exists k := max(n_\epsilon; n_\delta) : n > k \Rightarrow |x_n| < \epsilon[/tex]

CVD
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
4K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K