Hints for Solving a System of Nonlinear Trigonometric Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of nonlinear trigonometric equations involving multiple variables (theta1 to theta5) and constants. Participants seek hints and strategies for approaching the problem, which includes exploring methods for simplification and potential iterative solutions.

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  • One participant requests hints for solving a system of trigonometric equations, specifying the variables and constants involved.
  • Another participant suggests improving readability of the equations and provides a link to a related thread.
  • A different participant proposes posting the values of the constants to facilitate the discussion and suggests converting the equations into a form suitable for iterative solutions.
  • This participant also mentions the importance of a sufficiency condition for convergence in iterative methods, referencing the need for partial derivatives.
  • One participant identifies a specific equation that could simplify the system and suggests substituting it along with its sine equivalent to reduce complexity.
  • Another participant acknowledges the reduction of equations after applying the suggested substitution.

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Participants express various strategies for approaching the problem, but there is no consensus on a single method or solution. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple viewpoints on how to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of 9 equations with 9 unknowns, indicating a potentially solvable system, but the complexity of the nonlinear nature of the equations introduces challenges that are not fully resolved.

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Hello,

I have a system of trigonometric equations from which I should find theta1,..., theta5. Is it possible you can give me a hint on how to proceed. Thanks.

theta, phi, psi, Px, Py, Pz, l1, l2, l3, l4, l5, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5 are all constants.

Cos[t1+t2] Cos[t3+t4] Cos[t5]+Sin[t1+t2] Sin[t5]=Cos[phi] Cos[theta]

Cos[t5] Sin[t1+t2]-Cos[t1+t2] Cos[t3+t4] Sin[t5]=Cos[theta] Sin[phi] Sin[psi]-Cos[psi] Sin[theta]

Cos[t1+t2] Sin[t3+t4]=Cos[psi] Cos[theta] Sin[phi]+Sin[psi] Sin[theta]

l1Cos[t1]+Cos[t1+t2] (l2+l3 Cos[t3]+Cos[t3+t4] (l4+l5 Cos[t5])+d5 Sin[t3+t4])+Sin[t1+t2] (d3+d4+l5 Sin[t5])=Px

Cos[t3+t4] Cos[t5] Sin[t1+t2]-Cos[t1+t2] Sin[t5]=Cos[phi] Sin[theta]

-Cos[t1+t2] Cos[t5]-Cos[t3+t4] Sin[t1+t2] Sin[t5]=Cos[psi] Cos[theta]+Sin[phi] Sin[psi] Sin[theta]

l1Sin[t1]+Sin[t1+t2] (l2+l3 Cos[t3]+Cos[t3+t4] (l4+l5 Cos[t5])+d5 Sin[t3+t4])-Cos[t1+t2] (d3+d4+l5 Sin[t5])=Py

Sin[t1+t2] Sin[t3+t4]=-Cos[theta] Sin[psi]+Cos[psi] Sin[phi] Sin[theta] Cos[t5] Sin[t3+t4]-Sin[phi]-Sin[t3+t4] Sin[t5]=Cos[phi] Sin[psi]

-Cos[t3+t4]=Cos[phi]Cos[psi]

d1+d2-d5 Cos[t3+t4]+l3 Sin[t3]+(l4+l5 Cos[t5]) Sin[t3+t4]=Pz
 
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Yikes! A little more readability can't hurt:
(https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8997) << read this!

mikeley said:
[tex] \cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) \cos t_5 +\sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \sin t_5 =\cos \phi \cos \theta [/tex]

[tex] \cos t_5 \sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) -\cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) \sin t_5 =\cos \theta \sin \phi \sin \psi -\cos \psi \sin \theta [/tex]

[tex] \cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) =\cos \psi \cos \theta \sin \phi +\sin \psi \sin \theta [/tex]

[tex] l_1\cos t_1 +\cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) (l_2+l_3 \cos t_3 +\cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) (l_4+l_5 \cos t_5 )+d_5 \sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) )+\sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) (d_3+d_4+l_5 \sin t_5 )=P_x[/tex]

[tex] \cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) \cos t_5 \sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) -\cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \sin t_5 =\cos \phi \sin \theta [/tex]

[tex] -\cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \cos t_5 -\cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) \sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \sin t_5 =\cos \psi \cos \theta +\sin \phi \sin \psi \sin \theta [/tex]

[tex] l_1\sin t_1 +\sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) (l_2+l_3 \cos t_3 +\cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) (l_4+l_5 \cos t_5 )+d_5 \sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) )-\cos \left( t_1+t_2 \right) (d_3+d_4+l_5 \sin t_5 )=P_y[/tex]

[tex] \sin \left( t_1+t_2 \right) \sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) =-\cos \theta \sin \psi +\cos \psi \sin \phi \sin \theta \cos t_5 \sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) -\sin \phi -\sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) \sin t_5 =\cos \phi \sin \psi [/tex]

[tex] -\cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) =\cos \phi \cos \psi [/tex]

[tex] d_1+d_2-d_5 \cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) +l_3 \sin t_3 +(l_4+l_5 \cos t_5 ) \sin \left( t_3+t_4 \right) =P_z[/tex]
 
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mikeley said:
Hello,

I have a system of trigonometric equations from which I should find theta1,..., theta5. Is it possible you can give me a hint on how to proceed. Thanks.

theta, phi, psi, Px, Py, Pz, l1, l2, l3, l4, l5, d1, d2, d3, d4, d5 are all constants.

Feel like posting the values for all these constants?

Then me anyway, in some desperate attempt at approaching it, I would then convert each to:

[tex]t1=f(t1,t2,t3,t4,t5; constants)[/tex]

[tex]t2=g(t1,t2,t3,t4,t5;constants)[/tex]

and so on and then use iteration of some sort to analyze if it converges to a solution. There is a sufficiency condition for this sort of iteration to converge to a solution and involves the partials of each function above.

Oh yea, I'd rely heavily on Mathematica too. :smile:

Edit: I just noticed you have 10 equation and one in particular:

[tex]-\cos \left( t_3+t_4 \right) =\cos \phi \cos \psi[/tex]

You can immediately start cleaning them up by substituting this one and it's Sin equivalent.
 
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I change my mind. I can do that. There're 9 equations in 9 unknowns. For example:

[tex]Cos[t1+t2]=u1[/tex]

What are the rest?
 
Thanks a lot. I managed to get the reduction you mentioned.
 

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