Force due to pressure on side of a container

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force due to pressure on the side of an L-shaped tank, specifically focusing on the pressure exerted on the right wall of the horizontal part of the tank. The tank's dimensions are described in terms of a variable 'd', with specific heights and widths provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the force equation related to pressure but expresses uncertainty about how to set up the integration required for the calculation. Some participants question the clarity of the dimensions provided and seek to confirm the view of the tank being discussed.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the relationship between pressure, depth, and force. There is mention of using gauge pressure to simplify calculations, and one participant offers a resource that may assist others in understanding the integration process for similar problems.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted ambiguity regarding the dimensions and orientation of the tank, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. The discussion also highlights the use of gauge pressure rather than absolute pressure in the calculations.

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Hi gang,

I'm having an issue with one my homework problems. There is an L shaped tank, 3d in height, 1d in width. The vertical part of the L is 2d in height, and the horizontal part of the L is a 1d box. d = 8m
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|_ _|<--Force due to pressure needed for this side.

I need to find the pressure on the right wall of the horizontal part of the L. What I have managed to get so far is the equation:
F=(rho)(g)(width)(height^2)

Not very far, I know. I'm assuming I have to integrate this somehow, but I am unsure as to how to set it up. I'm not really looking for a solution, just a push in the right direction with regards to the integration, or in the correct direction if I am very, very wrong.

Thanks, in advance, for the help.
 
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loto said:
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Is this a Plan view (a view from on top) or a Side view?
 
From the side, sorry.
 
Ok, hang on a min.
 
loto said:
Hi gang,

I'm having an issue with one my homework problems. There is an L shaped tank, 3d in height, 1d in width. The vertical part of the L is 2d in height, and the horizontal part of the L is a 1d box. d = 8m
_
| |
| |_
|_ _|<--Force due to pressure needed for this side.

I need to find the pressure on the right wall of the horizontal part of the L. What I have managed to get so far is the equation:
F=(rho)(g)(width)(height^2)

Not very far, I know. I'm assuming I have to integrate this somehow, but I am unsure as to how to set it up. I'm not really looking for a solution, just a push in the right direction with regards to the integration, or in the correct direction if I am very, very wrong.

Thanks, in advance, for the help.
OK, I can explain this in general but I didn't completely follow all the dimentions you gave. From equilibrium considerations, the pressure at some depth, h is [itex]P_0+\rho gh[/itex] where [itex]P_0[/itex] is the pressure at the surface. The force at this hieght is PA where A is the area. Along the surface of the wall, the pressure is changing with the depth. At a given depth, h, the force is [itex](P_0+\rho gh)ldh[/itex] where l is the length of the wall. Now it is a matter of integrating the infinitesimal forces at each height to get the total force.
 
We are actually using gauge pressure, so it simplifies the formula you gave a bit. I did get the correct answer using your method, though, so thank you very much.
 
Arrgh, too late!

Oh, well. What LeonhardEuler said.

I enclose a small piece of work explaining how to do these types of integrals for pressure over a submerged area.

It may be useful for yourself or anyone else reading these posts.
 

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