Reduced a big matrix, now the parametric form is not right, :\

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The discussion revolves around the row reduction of a matrix and the subsequent formulation of its parametric solution. Participants are examining the correctness of the row reduced form and the interpretation of the resulting equations.

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  • Participants are analyzing the row reduced form of the matrix and discussing the implications for the solution set. There are attempts to express the solution in vectorial notation and to identify potential errors in the formulation of the equations.

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There is ongoing dialogue about the correctness of the matrix entries and the derived equations. Some participants have offered corrections and suggestions based on their interpretations of the original poster's work. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Hello everyone I did the following problem:
Click http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8486/untitled1copy4oq.jpg to view the problem and my answer.

The row reduced form is:
1 5 0 0 -7 6 -7
0 0 1 0 -1 1 -1
0 0 0 1 - 2 -4 8

Any help would be great
 
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Your matrix seems to be correct, and is:

[tex]\left( {\begin{array}{*{20}c}<br /> 1 & 5 & 0 & 0 & { - 7} & 6 &\vline & { - 7} \\<br /> 0 & 0 & 1 & 0 & { - 1} & 1 &\vline & { - 1} \\<br /> 0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & { - 2} & { - 4} &\vline & 8 \\<br /> <br /> \end{array} } \right)[/tex]

Now we have 3 lineair indepedant equations with 6 variables which means we can 'choose' 3 variables. We keep the variables [tex]x_1[/tex], [tex]x_3[/tex] and [tex]x_4[/tex]. Let [tex]x_2 = s[/tex], [tex]x_5 = t[/tex] and [tex]x_6 = u[/tex].

This gives the solution of the system:

[tex]\left\{ \begin{gathered}<br /> x_1 + 5s - 7t + 6u = - 7 \hfill \\<br /> x_3 - t + u = - 1 \hfill \\<br /> x_4 - 2t - 4u = 8 \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered} \right. \Leftrightarrow \left\{ \begin{gathered}<br /> x_1 = - 7 - 5s + 7t - 6u \hfill \\<br /> x_3 = - 1 + t - u \hfill \\<br /> x_4 = 8 + 2t + 4u \hfill \\ <br /> \end{gathered} \right[/tex]

Can you put it in vectorial notation now?
 
hm...i don't see how 'im still missing this:
i entered in:
-7 -5 7 6
0 1 0 0
-1 0 1 -1
8 0 0 4
0 0 1 0
0 0 0 1

still wrong, thanks for the reply!
 
I think you for got the 2 in column 3 for [itex]x_4[/itex] since that has "2t) in its solution.
 
I'm stilling screwing somthing up...I fixed what you said, but still not the right answer, and I know its row reduced correctly because I checked it with my calculator! here is the picture of what I wrote and submitted:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8780/gfsdgfd6wq.jpg Thanks for the help!
 
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I see you entered "6" in the last column for [itex]x_1[/itex] and I think that has to be "-6" (check my last system).
 
ah ha! my bad! thanks for the help! :biggrin:
 
It was correct now? Glad I could help :smile:
 

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