What is the Simplified Expression for 6n^5+15n^4+10n^3-n?

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The discussion revolves around simplifying the polynomial expression 6n^5+15n^4+10n^3-n, with a focus on factoring and finding roots.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore factoring out common terms, specifically n, and discuss the challenges of finding roots of the resulting polynomial. There are questions about dealing with irrational roots and the implications for simplification.

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Participants have provided guidance on factoring and checking for roots, with some attempting to simplify the expression further. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to handle the roots and the form of the expression.

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Participants mention the need for the expression to be in a specific form, n(n+1)(...), and discuss the nature of the roots, including references to irrational numbers.

rover
Hi,
Could someone help me to simplify this expression:

6n^5+15n^4+10n^3-n

Thanks,

:smile:
 
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You can start by factoring out n :smile:
 
I forgot to mention that it should be in the form of:
n(n+1)(...

thanks
 
Well, n is a common factor so can you start yourself?
After that, it'll be a bit harder to find factors but still doable (by finding zeroes of the polynomial!).

Try factoring out n yourself ?
 
thanks for the fast reply!

I have tried to get the roots (the zeros). After taking n as a common factor we have:
n(6n^4+15n^3+10n^2-1)

" 6n^4+15n^3+10n^2-1" has 4 roots and two of them are "strange" (dont know a better word). what i mean by strange is that one is unable to write them as 1/2, 1/3 or x/y.

the value of the root is: -1.263763...
the other root is: 0,263763...

does anyone know how to deal with these kind of problems
 
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If a is a zero, then you can factor out (x-a)
Try adding up all coëfficiënts of the even powers in x and the ones of the odd powers in x, if these 2 are the same then -1 is a zero and thus, (x+1) a factor.
 
Thanks TD for your very fast replies

By taking the roots i get the simplification:

(x+1.263763...)(x+1)(2x+1)(x-0,263763...)

I did not understand what u mean (i have the same powers for all x (=1), or?)
However, can i by any method cancel the 0.263763...
 
I forgot to mention that it should be in the form of:
n(n+1)(...

Then, you should be able to divide your original polynomial by n(n+1) and see what's left.

By the way, "strange" is irrational.
 
I solved it! :smile: :smile: :rolleyes:

if you multiply those irrational numbers you get a rational value!
The simplified answer is

x(x+1)(2x+1)(3x^2+3x-1)
 

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