Calculate Forces on Mr. Porter's Sign Outside Home

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The problem involves calculating the forces acting on a sign attached to a wall, specifically the tension in the chain and the thrust force exerted by the rod at a given angle. The subject area relates to statics and force analysis in physics.

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  • Participants discuss the need for a diagram to visualize the forces involved. There are questions about the relationship between the weight of the sign and the tension in the chain, particularly regarding the angle of the rod and its implications on the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup. Some have provided insights into the geometry of the situation, while others express confusion about the calculations and the role of the angle in determining the forces.

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There is mention of provided answers from a teacher, which some participants find difficult to reconcile with their understanding of the problem. The angle of the rod and the orientation of the sign are points of contention that remain unresolved.

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I can't figure out how to do this one:

"Mr. Porter has attached a sign that has a weight of 495N to a wall outside his home. Determine: a) The magnitude of the tension in the chain; b) The thrust force exerted by the rod, if the angle is 35 degrees"

I'm not seeing how the answers are a) 863N and b)706.9N (my teacher gave us the answers)
 
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Draw a diagram.
Weight is the y-component.
 
Can you show us what you've done so far on getting the answers?

From the answers, the rod must be at 35 degrees to the wall, rather than the horizontal. It's really only two simple calculations, just draw a diagram of forces, all there is to it.
 
What I'm not understanding is how the tension is 863N? If the signing is hanging straight down, shouldn't is be 495N [495sin(90)]?
 
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It isn't hanging straight down.
 
Where do you see that?
 
There's the sign, a chain, a rod and 35 degrees. I'd say the rod's placed horizontally.
 
This is all I can get.

Physics is not exactly my best subject :redface:
 

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That makes a lot more sense
Thanks
 

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