Analyzing Superposition of Waves with Different Phases

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The discussion revolves around the superposition of two waves described by the equations Asin(kx-wt) and Asin(kx+wt). Participants are exploring how to add these waves together, particularly focusing on their different phases and the resulting wave characteristics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of trigonometric identities to re-express the sine functions and explore the implications of their phase differences. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of these identities and to derive the resulting wave function. Questions arise about the nature of the resulting wave and how to interpret its motion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using trigonometric identities and have pointed out errors in the application of these identities. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of the derived wave function, including its envelope and time dependence. Multiple interpretations of the wave's behavior are being considered, particularly regarding its direction of travel.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of solutions provided. There is a focus on understanding the mathematical relationships and physical interpretations rather than arriving at a final answer.

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How do I find the sum of these 2 waves, Asin(kx-wt) and Asin(kx+wt)?

I have no clue how to add 2 sins with diffent phases.


Thank you for your help!
 
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Can you re-express sin(kx+wt) using a trig identity?
 
Humm would I use this identity sin(A + B)= sinA cosB + cosA sinB

so Asin(kx-wt) = -AsinkxAcoswt -AcoskxAsinwt
Asin(kx+wt) = AsinkxAcoswt +AcoskxAsinwt

But wouldn't that equal to zero?
 
Your identity is fine.
Check your use of it. Check the signs you wrote down.
 
oh i saw where i made my mistake
the answer should be 2Asin(kx)cos(wt)?


Now after I get that how would I find the

ye(x), called the envelope, depends only on position

and yt(x) depends only on time

yt(x) should be a trigonometric function of unit amplitude.

I need to express ye(x) and yt(x) in terms of A k omega x and t.


Is there partial derviative involved?

Thank you for your help!
 
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anyone please?
 
Look at the function and see what it means. You've separated the time and position variables. You could view the motion of each point as a function of time as an harmonic oscillator. (Some points don't move at all). Plot the function to see what it looks like. If you get some insight in the equation, the questions are very easy.
 
After finding the superposition formula for Asin(kx-wt) and Asin(kx+wt), which is 2Asin(kx)cos(wt), How do I tell which direction is the wave traveling?
 
Plot your superposed function for t=0. Notice where the x-positions of the peaks are.
Plot your superposed function for (say) t=0.01. Notice where the x-positions of the peaks are now.
Which way did it shift? If 0.01 is too complicated, try t=(1/12)*(2*pi/w).
If it's not clear, try doubling the value of t you just used.
 
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Humm from what i see, it seems that the wave its moving vertically, oscillating. Is that correct? I am not too sure how to graph these.

I graphed sin(x)cos(0.01) and then sin(x)cos((1/12)*(2pi))
 
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Presumably, you understand the meaning of "which way the sin(kx-wt) part travels"... and likewise for the sin(kx+wt). It can be seen as the direction along the x-axis of the motion of a peak. Apply the same reasoning to the superposed wave. You've practically got it... You just have to give the answer in the form stated above.

The second expression is easy to plot a graph of
"amplitude sin(x)cos((1/12)*(2pi)) [at time (1/12)*(2pi)] vs position x".
Can you numerically evaluate cos((1/12)*(2pi)), where pi=[itex]\pi[/itex].
 

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