Finding parametric equations for the tangent line

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The discussion revolves around finding parametric equations for the tangent line to a curve defined by given parametric equations at a specified point. Participants explore how to determine the parameter that corresponds to a specific point on the curve.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the process of identifying the parameter t that corresponds to a given point on the curve. There is an exploration of how to derive the direction of the tangent line using derivatives and the significance of the coordinates at specific parameter values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to find the appropriate parameter t for specific points, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the relationship between the parameter and the coordinates. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the conditions under which a point lies on the curve.

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There is a mention of the necessity to find a parameter t that satisfies all coordinates of the given point, and the implications of not being able to find such a t for certain points in relation to the curve.

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Hello everyone, I'm having troubles seeing how this works. The directions are:
Find parametric equations for the tagent line to the curve with the given parametric equations at the specified point.
Here is my work and problem:
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/750696/0/nouser_750/T0_-1_750696.jpg
The answer they have in the back is:
x = 1-t, y = t, z = 1-t
Thanks.
 
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The point (1,0,1) corresponds with the parameter t = 0.
Now, in your derivative, let t = 0 to get (-1,1,-1), this gives the direction.

Combining it with the point where it has to go through will give the line:
(1,0,1) + t (-1,1,-1) = (1-t,t,1-t)
 
Ohhh! thanks again TD! But I'm alittle confused, from the point they gave you: (1,0,1). How did you know that corresponds to t = 0?
 
Because the z-coördinate (e^(-t)) can only by 1 for t = 0. You can check for x & y too :smile:
 
ohh i c now, so really u just got guess a t, that corresponds to the point they say? right? so if they had like (0,0,0) u would have to find a t that satisfied all them right?
 
Correct, but since t = 0 was the only value that was correct for the z-value, it HAD to be correct for x and y too (if not, the point wouldn't have been on the curve).
 
Awesome, thanks for the explantion! it helped greatly!
 
No problem :smile:
 
im a bit lost now. i get the general idea but what about this one:

x = cos t, y = 3e^(2t), z = 3e^(-2t) and the point is (1, 3, 3)

in this case t is supposed to be 0, but z does not equal 1 when t is 0

so how do they come up with that?? And also x would be 1, y would be 3.
 
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But z wouldn't have to be 1, it has to be 3 as well, no?

[tex]\left( {\cos t,3e^{2t} ,3e^{ - 2t} } \right)\mathop \to \limits^{t = 0} \left( {\cos 0,3e^0 ,3e^0 } \right) = \left( {1,3,3} \right)[/tex]
 
  • #11
so what we really have to do is pick a t that gives us the point given? so in this case the point ( 1, 3, 3) is given or found by plugging in t = 0 into the parametric equations?

i think that makes since now

thanks very much
 
  • #12
Well yes, and if it would happen that you cannot find a t so that the parametric equation gives you a certain point, then that point just isn't part of the curve.
 

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