Are supermax prisons really 'escape proof'?

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The discussion centers around the concept of whether supermax prisons can be considered 'escape proof.' Participants explore the historical context of prison escapes, the resources available to prisoners, and the inherent flaws in security systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that there is no such thing as an escape-proof prison, citing historical examples where prisons labeled as such have had successful escapes.
  • Others suggest that the potential for escape depends on the resources and creativity of the prisoner compared to the security measures in place.
  • One participant humorously notes that bribery could be considered a resource that facilitates escape.
  • A later reply introduces the idea of quantum tunneling as a theoretical possibility for escape, suggesting that until prisons can address such concepts, they cannot be deemed escape proof.
  • There are references to fictional scenarios, such as Magneto's escape, which illustrate the imaginative aspects of escape possibilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that no prison can be considered entirely escape proof, but they present multiple competing views on the factors that contribute to this conclusion, leaving the discussion unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on anecdotal evidence and fictional references, while others introduce speculative concepts like quantum tunneling without definitive conclusions.

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Many prisoners have escaped from prisons throughout the years, even death row. The wardens tend to think that after they make corrections, it is 'escape proof'

Do you think prisons are ever escape proof? Yes or no and why?
 
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I don't think there is a such thing as escape proof.
There have been numerous prisons throughout history that have been labeled escape proof and proven wrong. Any security measure can be bypassed with the right resources.
 
Nothing's impossible, escape included. From anywhere.
 
Any "system" has its flaws :)

Even Magneto escaped!
 
The possibility of escape is entirely dependent upon the resources and imagination of the prisoner vs those of the system.
 
Or on how much you pay off the guards :p
 
Bribery is categorized as a 'resource', along with standing armies.:biggrin:
 
Pengwuino said:
Even Magneto escaped!
I forgot how that happened, a gaurd came in or something wearing metal?
 
An accomplice seduced him in a bar and injected him with either a metal or a substance that increased the iron content of his haemoglobin. Can't remember which, and I seem to recall that in reality blood-borne iron isn't magnetic.:rolleyes:
 
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An accomplice seduced him in a bar and injected him with either a metal or a substance that increased the iron content of his haemoglobin. Can't remember which, and I seem to recall that in reality blood-borne iron isn't magnetic.:rolleyes:

well i think she put so much in him that it didnt bond with the blood stuff.. or whatever.. so yea then magneto is like WTF there is iron in your blood, gimme it please and he took it
 
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The man was a tad dim-witted and didn't notice the severe burns from being injected with molten metal.
 
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To play the nerd here, I remember something about there being a calculable probability that you can undergo quantum tunneling and move intact from one location to another. While the odds are slim, I think that no prison can be entitled escape proof until they learn to deal with this possibility. Force fields perhaps?

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