What Angle Causes Particles A and B to Collide?

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The discussion revolves around a problem in kinematics involving two particles, A and B. Particle A moves at a constant velocity along a horizontal line, while particle B starts from rest at the origin with a constant acceleration. The goal is to determine the angle at which particle B must accelerate to collide with particle A, which is moving parallel to the x-axis at a fixed height.

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  • Participants discuss the conditions necessary for collision, including the need for both particles to have equal displacements at the time of collision. There are attempts to set up equations for both the x and y axes, with some participants questioning the definitions of acceleration components based on the angle.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and reasoning. Some have expressed uncertainty about their approaches, while others are seeking clarification on the geometric interpretations of the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method or outcome yet.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem, including the initial conditions of the particles and the requirement to find an angle that leads to a collision. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between the variables involved, particularly regarding the angle and its impact on the motion of particle B.

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Could someone point me in the right direction, I am totally lost

particle A moves along the line y=30m with a constant velocity v of magnitude 3.0m/s and parallel to the x axis. At the instant particle A leaves the y axis, particle B leaves the origin with zero initial speed and constant acceleration a of magnitude 0.40m/s^2. What angle between a and the positive direction of the y-axis would result in a collision?
 
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A math exercise once you can visualize what's going on. You have a particle moving along y=30m. Now you are at the origin with zero velocity. You want to crash into the dude moving at y=30. The only thing is that you don't have a steering wheel. Meaning you have to calculate the angle you want to start off with knowing that you can accelerate at 0.40 m/s/s.

Kinematics equations. You have two equations, one in the x and the other in the y.
What are the conditions for collision?

1. The displacement in y is equal to 30m.
2. The displacement in x is equal to the displacement of particle A at collision time (which we don't yet know).

With those two conditions, we write out the variables we know and are looking for in the x and y (I gave you some hints, fill in the rest):

x-axis
a: asin(angle)
vinitial:
vfinal: ?
displacement:
time: ?

y-axis:
a: acos(angle)
vinitial:
vfinal: ?
displacement:
time: ?
 
Wouldn't x - axis be a: acos(angle) and y -axis be a: asin(angle)
 
Ok this is what I've tried so far
Particle B
Y-axis
displacement= 30m

30 = V0(t) + 1/2a(t^2)
t= 12.25s

v = v0 + at
v = (.40)12.25
v= 4.9m/s

In 12.25s particle A travels 3.0m/s * 12.25s = 36.75m

X-axis
displacement = 36.75m
36.75 = vo + 1/2a(t^2)
36.75 =(.2)(t^2)
t= 13.56s

v= vo + at
= (.4)(13.56)
= 5.42m/s

I don't know if I am on the right track or not but this is as far as i can get
 
still pretty much stuck, could anyone help
 
from this i took the position r=(36.75m)i + (30m)j
then i found the angle relative to the x axis

Tan(theta)= 30/36.75
theta = arctan .82
= 39.4

90 - 39.4 = 50.6 which would be the angle from the y-axis


can someone tell me if I am doing this right i would appreciate it.:smile:
 
shawpeez said:
Wouldn't x - axis be a: acos(angle) and y -axis be a: asin(angle)

Normally yes, except the question asks

What angle between a and the positive direction of the y-axis would result in a collision?

so you've got to be more flexible and truly understand the geometry problem instead of thinking that cosine is always an x-axis "thing".

shawpeez said:
30 = V0(t) + 1/2a(t^2)
t= 12.25s

How did you get the value for t? The value for a is acos(angle). I thought we were just discussing how we don't know the angle and that's what we're finding? Same goes for your x-axis analysis. The conditions we DO know are:

[tex]d_b_y = \frac{1}{2}a_1t^2 = 30m[/tex]
[tex]d_b_x = \frac{1}{2}a_2t^2 = d_a_x = vt[/tex]

where a1 and a2 are acos(angle) and asin(angle). How many unknowns, how many variables do we have?
 

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